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We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by michaelt »

atonse wrote: post #53
bobmcnamara wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Years back a friend of mine's startup failed when USAF pirated their software and the original customer org stopped paying for it. Feds are DMCA immune, so no real recourse.

This seems very suspect. Usually you do have recourse via procurement channels and reps. If you file a complaint with that agency stating that they’re using a license without paying for it, it will result in at least an investigation.

If you got to hire the cops to investigate your own mistakes, would you hire competent, motivated folks who'd leave no stone unturned and get access to every classified, air-gapped network in search of license infringements?

I wouldn't. I'd hire some Peter Gibbons type, who only does about 15 minutes of real, actual work in a typical week. Then I'd tell them they can finish early if all their pending cases are closed.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by isatty »

viharkurama wrote: post #2

After a U.S. federal contractor told us they loved Plane but couldn't use it due to ITAR requirements, we spent 6 months building a truly air-gapped version. No external connections, no license pings, no telemetry, everything runs in complete isolation. The interesting part: our air-gapped deployment actually runs faster than our SaaS version. Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. This…

> The interesting part: our air-gapped deployment actually runs faster than our SaaS version.

This is the least surprising thing I’ve read all day.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by jasondc »

pc86 wrote: post #24
Disposal8433 wrote: post #21

There is no price anywhere. I would be interested to use that for either my job or for private projects, but where and how much do I pay? Edit: I looked again and even your pricing pages have no price. I understand that you may want to restrict yourself to rich companies, but I don't understand the point of posting on HN if that's the case.

Air-gapped probably adds a zero or two to the highest tier Enterprise price. You wouldn't buy an Enterprise license for a personal project, why would you buy an Enterprise++ license (which is essentially what AG is)?

It's part of the Business tier on the pricing page here: https://plane.so/pricing

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by bobmcnamara »

atonse wrote: post #53
bobmcnamara wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Years back a friend of mine's startup failed when USAF pirated their software and the original customer org stopped paying for it. Feds are DMCA immune, so no real recourse.

This seems very suspect. Usually you do have recourse via procurement channels and reps. If you file a complaint with that agency stating that they’re using a license without paying for it, it will result in at least an investigation.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/08/air-force-cracks...

Hopefully this was fixed, but this was the standing precedent at the time.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by bobmcnamara »

michaelt wrote: post #81
atonse wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems very suspect. Usually you do have recourse via procurement channels and reps. If you file a complaint with that agency stating that they’re using a license without paying for it, it will result in at least an investigation.

If you got to hire the cops to investigate your own mistakes, would you hire competent, motivated folks who'd leave no stone unturned and get access to every classified, air-gapped network in search of license infringements? I wouldn't. I'd hire some Peter Gibbons type, who only does about 15 minutes of real, actual work in a typical week. Then I'd tell them they can finish early if all their pending cases are closed…

Practically the federal government shouted, Neener neener neener! Rules for thee but not for meeeeeee!

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/08/air-force-cracks...

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by bobmcnamara »

bigfatkitten wrote: post #47
bobmcnamara wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Years back a friend of mine's startup failed when USAF pirated their software and the original customer org stopped paying for it. Feds are DMCA immune, so no real recourse.

Sounds like having only one paying customer was the real cause of the business’s failure.

They've mentioned that was a valuable lesson.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by dummydummy1234 »

mind_heist wrote: post #87

This is totally a tangential point. Why do they call it "air gapped" instead of "air tight" ? Are these supposed to mean different things ?

Airgapped systems have an air gap between the system and the wider world. The only way to move data to and from them is for someone to walk across the gap with physical media.

There are no communication cables between the host system and the wider world.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by jay_kyburz »

IshKebab wrote: post #20
jasondc wrote: post #3

Big fan of Plane since it's open-core. Doesn't seem to be a lot of options for self-hosted/open-core project management software. The existing ones looks pretty bad, and don't come anywhere close to Jira level functionality.

> don't come anywhere close to Jira level functionality. In my experience that's probably a good thing. I've moved from a company using Phabricator to one using Jira. Phabricator had exactly everything we needed and was very nicely designed and worked really nicely. Jira has everything you need plus loads of other stuff that project managers feel like they need to add. Oh and they'll never clear anything up or fix an…

The first bug you should log is that the bug logging page has unnecessary fields.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by ojame »

mind_heist wrote: post #87

This is totally a tangential point. Why do they call it "air gapped" instead of "air tight" ? Are these supposed to mean different things ?

You can have an air gap between two physical items - it doesn't matter if those physical items are air tight or not. Air gapped doesn't mean the items are prohibited to intake air (i.e. air tight), it just means they're prohibited to intake things _apart_ from air.
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