QuakeNotch: Quake Terminal on your MacBook's notch

Post by dSebastien » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 4:59 AM UTC

coolsunglasses wrote: post #7

staplung wrote: post #5

Expectation: "Quake terminal" implies playing Quake, possibly in some Asciinema-type way. Maybe just starting the built-in Quake terminal without the game-play. Reality: a regular terminal that starts in the notch and expands to normal window. I guess it's somehow based on the terminal that was in Quake but that was only really used for issuing quake commands, not really for being a posix-compliant, VT-100 compatible…

"Quake terminal" has been a term of art for a regular terminal that drops down from the top of the screen like the terminal in Quake did for the last 20-22 years. I remember this being a thing when I started using Linux back then. https://github.com/Guake/guake https://babbagefiles.xyz/quake-drop-down-terminal-history/ Yakuake, Kuake (2003), etc.

Post by znpy » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 6:50 AM UTC

Post by johnisgood » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 10:01 AM UTC

coolsunglasses wrote: post #7

staplung wrote: post #5

Expectation: "Quake terminal" implies playing Quake, possibly in some Asciinema-type way. Maybe just starting the built-in Quake terminal without the game-play. Reality: a regular terminal that starts in the notch and expands to normal window. I guess it's somehow based on the terminal that was in Quake but that was only really used for issuing quake commands, not really for being a posix-compliant, VT-100 compatible…

"Quake terminal" has been a term of art for a regular terminal that drops down from the top of the screen like the terminal in Quake did for the last 20-22 years. I remember this being a thing when I started using Linux back then. https://github.com/Guake/guake https://babbagefiles.xyz/quake-drop-down-terminal-history/ Yakuake, Kuake (2003), etc.

Post by crazygringo » Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 5:40 PM UTC

asdff wrote: post #81

int_19h wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider the other options: 1. Have a bezel instead. This reduces the overall screen height and pixel count. 2. Have the camera stick above the screen instead. Lenovo did that on some Thinkpads recently. The problem is that it is still sticking out when closed. 2a. Fold the camera somehow. Requires the display to be thick enough to allow that, at least in that one area. 3. Don't have the camera at all. Given that Mac…

To be honest when you catch a good look at the camera in the glare, it is about the size of the remaining bezel on the mbp. I'm not sure why the camera unit necessarily needs all this vertical buffer space. Maybe they wanted to use an off the shelf camera instead of making something narrower (and perhaps longer) that would fit seamlessly in the display. I expect that is probably coming in a couple years.

Post by asdff » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 9:28 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #88

asdff wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest when you catch a good look at the camera in the glare, it is about the size of the remaining bezel on the mbp. I'm not sure why the camera unit necessarily needs all this vertical buffer space. Maybe they wanted to use an off the shelf camera instead of making something narrower (and perhaps longer) that would fit seamlessly in the display. I expect that is probably coming in a couple years.

The camera is a lot bigger than just the visible lens part, plus there are other sensors too: https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/5JIdAqwLsxWAFAyZ Apple isn't doing off-the-shelf. This already is as seamless as you get for the moment. They're not putting the notch in for fun.