I currently use LLMs as a glorified Stack Overflow. If I want to start integrating an LLM like Gemini 2.5 PRO into my IDE (I use Visual Studio Code), whats the best way to do this? I don't want to use a platform like Cursor or Claude Code which takes me away from my IDE.
Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
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Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#82> Gemini 2.5 PRO | Claude Opus 4 Whether it's vibe coding, agentic coding, or copy pasting from the web interface to your editor, it's still sad to see the normalization of private (i.e., paid) LLM models. I like the progress that LLMs introduce and I see them as a powerful tool, but I cannot understand how programmers (whether complete nobodies or popular figures) dont mind adding a strong dependency on a third part…
You have very powerful open weight models, they are not the cutting edge. Even those you can't really run locally, so you'd have to pay a 3rd party to run it.
Also the competition is awesome to see, these companies are all trying hard to get customers and build the best model and driving prices down, and giving you options. No one company has all of the power, its great to see capitalism working.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#83> Coding activities should be performed mostly with: Claude Opus 4 I've been going down to sonnet for coding over opus. maybe i am just writing dumb code
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#84Can anyone recommend a workflow / tools that accomplishes a slightly more augmented version of antirez’ workflow & suggestions minus the copy-pasting? I am on board to agree that pure LLM + pure original full code as context is the best path at the moment, but I’d love to be able to use some shortcuts like quickly applying changes, checkpoints, etc. My persistent (and not unfounded?) worry is that all the major tools…
If your codebase fits in the context window, you can also just turn on "MAX" mode and it puts it all in the context for you.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe it’s the same as for humans: different files implementing different parts of the system with good interfaces and sensible boundaries.
this is a common pattern I see -- if your codebase is confusing for LLMs, it's probably confusing for people too
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#86Can anyone recommend a workflow / tools that accomplishes a slightly more augmented version of antirez’ workflow & suggestions minus the copy-pasting? I am on board to agree that pure LLM + pure original full code as context is the best path at the moment, but I’d love to be able to use some shortcuts like quickly applying changes, checkpoints, etc. My persistent (and not unfounded?) worry is that all the major tools…
Claude Code has worked well for me. It is easy to point it to the relevant parts of the codebase and see what it decides to read itself so you provide missing piece of code when necessary.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#87I'm going a little offtopic here, but I disagree with the OPs use of the term "PhD-level knowledge", although I have a huge amount of respect for antirez (beside that we are born in the same island). This phrasing can be misleading and points to a broader misunderstanding about the nature of doctoral studies, which it has been influenced by the marketing and hype discourse surrounding AI labs. The assertion that ther…
It’s not like once you have a PhD anyone cares about the subject, right? The only thing that matters is that you learnt to conduct research.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cursor is an old way of using LLMs. Not to mention in the study less than 1/2 have ever used it before the study.
The AI tooling churn is so fast that by the time a study comes out people will be able to say "well they were using an older tool" no matter what tool that the study used .
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm certain these are advertorials masquerading as personal opinions. These people are being paid to promote the product, either through outright cash, credits on their platform or just swag.
So, just so I have this straight, you think antirez is being paid by Google to hype Gemini.
To be fair, change is not always good. We still haven't fixed fitness/obesity issues caused (partly) by the invention of the car, 150 years later. I think there's a decent chance LLMs will have the same effect on the brain.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#90> Gemini 2.5 PRO | Claude Opus 4 Whether it's vibe coding, agentic coding, or copy pasting from the web interface to your editor, it's still sad to see the normalization of private (i.e., paid) LLM models. I like the progress that LLMs introduce and I see them as a powerful tool, but I cannot understand how programmers (whether complete nobodies or popular figures) dont mind adding a strong dependency on a third part…
> Programming used to be (and still is, to a large extent) an activity that can be done with open and free tools. Since when? It starts with computers, the main tool and it's architecture not being free and goes from there. Major compilers used to not be free. Major IDEs used to not be free. For most things there were decent and (sometimes) superior free alternatives. The same is true for LLMs. > The excuse "but you…
There were and are a lot of non-free ones, but since the 1990s, GCC and interpreted languages and Linux and Emacs and Eclipse and a bunch of kinda-IDEs were all free, and now VS Code is one of the highest marketshare IDEs, and those are all free. Also, the most used and learned programming language is JS, which doesn't need compilers in the first place.