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Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Re: Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Post by amelius »

dfxm12 wrote: post #67
amelius wrote: post #33

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You ban it by making it illegal.

Rolling through stop signs is illegal, but people do it all the time without penalty. It's not enough to simply make something illegal. You also have to have groups empowered to enforce the law and dole out punishments heavy enough to act as a deterrent.

You picked an example at the extreme end, so let me choose another example at the opposite end. Breaking into people's homes and taking their stuff is illegal. It would happen a lot more if there were no laws against it.

Re: Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Post by reconnecting »

openplatypus wrote: post #80
reconnecting wrote: post #78

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Yes, I had use PII as synonymous of Personal data here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_data

It is very close, but it not the same. https://techgdpr.com/blog/difference-between-pii-and-persona... > When organisations seek to protect their user’s data, it is necessary that they understand the data they need to safeguard. Personal data, in the context of GDPR, covers a much wider range of information than personally identifiable information (PII), commonly used in North America. In other words, while all PII i…

IANAL, and wrote PII because it's personal non-legally binding communication, and there is nothing wrong with using any terms that are familiar to both sides.

You can read it as both PII and personal data, and it doesn't change the fact that this data sharing is out of scope of the company Privacy Terms.

Re: Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Post by bit1993 »

reconnecting wrote: post #66
rustc wrote: post #62

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> Ha, nice find! I'm the Adriaan in adriaan.com. I'm testing some new script features that might improve deliverability. It's not sending any personal data. I use another domain to have the least effect of ad-blockers. You are sending the user agent, path, referrer, a session id + the IP (which is automatically sent) to your personal server and also using a different domain to track users who have ad blockers install…

So the correct title must be: "SimpleAnalytics track you TWICE when you're reading about Google tracking you (even when using DuckDuckGo)."

"Honeypot even when using DuckDuckGo"

Re: Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Post by dfxm12 »

amelius wrote: post #81
dfxm12 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rolling through stop signs is illegal, but people do it all the time without penalty. It's not enough to simply make something illegal. You also have to have groups empowered to enforce the law and dole out punishments heavy enough to act as a deterrent.

You picked an example at the extreme end, so let me choose another example at the opposite end. Breaking into people's homes and taking their stuff is illegal. It would happen a lot more if there were no laws against it.

You've completely missed the point. I'll break it down.

When you break a law, it doesn't magically summon an LEO and judge to catch you in the act and give you the proper penalty, so words in a code is not a deterrent. The deterrent is knowing someone will hunt you down, getting thrown in jail, it's fines that hurt your bottom line.

Yes, our society places a premium on policing break ins very harshly. Police have huge budgets for street crime & judges have harsh penalties available to them. White collar crime, like financial crime or breaking what little privacy protections is on the books? Not so much... So, again, you can't just make a law. You also have to have groups empowered to enforce the law and dole out punishments heavy enough to act as a deterrent.

Re: Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

dfxm12 wrote: post #67
amelius wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You ban it by making it illegal.

Rolling through stop signs is illegal, but people do it all the time without penalty. It's not enough to simply make something illegal. You also have to have groups empowered to enforce the law and dole out punishments heavy enough to act as a deterrent.

That could be remedied by installing cameras with AI on the edge, coupled with autonomous RPGs, or drones starting and dropping a fragmentation grenade on the offender.

Re: Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Post by giingyui »

prox wrote: post #79
v5v3 wrote: post #57

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Then something else will replace it. To make the same amount of money.

You mean old timey wimey marketing pre-internet? Just target people instead of Bob at 17th Rosewood St. How about this, I set a preference for some stuff I am interested in and that’s what they can show me.

They don’t track Bob at 17th Rosewood St. They put him into groups of things they think he is likely to buy. Which is close to targeting people.

Re: Google's widespread tracking across the web

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Post by giingyui »

bayindirh wrote: post #46
tonyhart7 wrote: post #40

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"mandating cookie banners and GDPR." this is only works if your business located in EU, no one stop EU people visit US site and still get tracked

I'm not pretty sure about that. I get cookie banners from US companies all the time and choose to reject them. Just visited www.vmware.com. Site is located in the US. Company is located in USA, and OneTrust's cookie banner welcomed me, and allows me to make choices.

VMware wants to sell to European clients. If they didn’t they wouldn’t have cookie banners.
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