NuxtLabs is joining Vercel • Hacker News Board

Re: NuxtLabs is joining Vercel

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Post by sensanaty » Fri, Jul 11, 2025, 8:28 AM UTC

rich_harris wrote: post #77

sensanaty wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vercel's playbook with Next so far has been to make convoluted features that exist solely to pad out how much people spend on hosting costs. They also make sure that hosting it anywhere but Vercel comes with footguns, even though theoretically you can host your Next app anywhere you want (and it's gotten better recently solely because of backlash). See https://opennext.js.org/ for example. They've been so successful…

> I have no doubts they'll do the same with Nuxt, demanding they implement features that solely exist to pad out hosting costs while providing next to no actual benefits to end users and devs has that happened with Svelte? > they now have a monopoly over the most popular frontend meta frameworks (Next, Svelte/Kit, Nuxt, Astro) this would be a surprise to the Astro team!

> this would be a surprise to the Astro team!

That's my bad, seems my memory failed me here!

Re: NuxtLabs is joining Vercel

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Post by 0xblinq » Fri, Jul 11, 2025, 5:15 PM UTC

rich_harris wrote: post #79

byyll wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> has that happened with Svelte? Yes. There are features that have been deliberately kept on the platform level to force you to use the platform instead of implementing it on the framework level or guiding you through it with the docs. https://svelte.dev/docs/kit/glossary#ISR

ISR _can't_ be implemented at a framework level without tying the framework to the platform. The fact that we instead chose to implement it via a platform-agnostic adapter API surely demonstrates the opposite of what you're implying

This would be true if you also provided an adapter-node, which would work on most traditional servers, and most non-serverless platforms.

The fact that you prioritize the vercel one and not the node native one proves what OP implies in my opinion.

Re: NuxtLabs is joining Vercel

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Post by 0xblinq » Fri, Jul 11, 2025, 5:18 PM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #33

joshdavham wrote: post #18

Pretty incredible that now Next.js, Svelte/kit and Nuxt will be under Vercel. This could be a great thing as now all of these devs are much better supported in their work, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say that this situation makes me quite nervous.

Here's to holding out hope Tanstack stays independent

Don’t bet on it. Nobody can resist a big pile of money. Everyone has a price.