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Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by padjo »

timr wrote: post #72
padjo wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they responded to say “yes we took it down” so what’s your point again?

No, they literally said "we're moving it to NASA". I'm not arguing that the overall fact pattern is good here. I'm saying this article is stupid and lazy.

No you said it’s probably a dns configuration, posted some pointless name server addresses and implied government sysadmins are incompetent.

What actually happened is exactly what this article said and I wouldn’t be surprised if they get no response from NOAA because of the administration’s well documented feud with the AP.

And if you believe NASA will publish anything beyond the most perfunctory version of this report under this administration I have a bridge to sell you.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by billfor »

bko wrote: post #70
triceratops wrote: post #2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up

I think we rely too much on government mandated websites than we do practical common sense that could save lives. For instance, over 175,000 people die from heat exposure each year across the WHO European Region. Compare that to 1-2k in the US. In this case, the Don't Look Up scenario is that people don't want to get A/C and governments sometimes make it very hard for them, killing hundreds of thousands because... I…

Cold still kills at least 2x the number of people in the same region. 363,800 deaths are attributed to cold exposure.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/aug/21/heat...

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by jmholla »

nektro wrote: post #73

i think what contributes the most to my sense of dread is the feeling that if you were to tell these decision makers in govt right now "but this'll kill people!" they'd respond "good"

They don't care about people. Senator Joni Ernst when told that people would die due from the spending bill responded with, "Well, we are all going to die."

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by spencerflem »

anigbrowl wrote: post #19
amarcheschi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess they see themselves as high officers in those states. I fail to understand how someone could read about living in a dictatorship and go "yeah, I would like to live like that"

Evidence suggests ~30% of people are content to be worse off in order to inflict a larger loss upon others. This paper makes for rather grim reading but imho provides a very useful heuristic for understanding the political enfironment in an era of mass communication. Humans display a reduced set of consistent behavioral phenotypes in dyadic games https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.1600451

This really feels like the best explanation for what's happening right now :c

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by timr »

padjo wrote: post #81
timr wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they literally said "we're moving it to NASA". I'm not arguing that the overall fact pattern is good here. I'm saying this article is stupid and lazy.

No you said it’s probably a dns configuration, posted some pointless name server addresses and implied government sysadmins are incompetent. What actually happened is exactly what this article said and I wouldn’t be surprised if they get no response from NOAA because of the administration’s well documented feud with the AP. And if you believe NASA will publish anything beyond the most perfunctory version of this repo…

> No you said it’s probably a dns configuration,

I said that barring better information, you can't rule it out. Still true.

> posted some pointless name server addresses

They're government servers, is the point. And don't you find it a little bit curious that someone bothered to change the NS records? It's not the usual way that a website goes down. In fact, it's the sort of thing that happens when you're in the process of (potentially incompetently) moving a domain from one server to another.

> What actually happened is exactly what this article said and I wouldn’t be surprised if they get no response from NOAA

Yet other reporters, from multiple different left-leaning news outlets, managed to get these elusive comments from super hard-to-reach people like...the White House press secretary for science policy. It's almost like there was a press conference or something.

Sometimes you actually have to do work to be a reporter, and when you skip that part and jump directly to conspiracy, it's not defensible. It's just trash journalism.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by triceratops »

timr wrote: post #80
triceratops wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"As of this writing, NASA has not provided any details on when and where the reports will be available again or if the new assessment will proceed."

Yeah, try reading a better source [1]: > NASA will now take over, Victoria LaCivita, communications director at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, told ABC News. "All preexisting reports will be hosted on the NASA website, ensuring compliance with statutorily required reporting," LaCivita said, referring ABC News to NASA for more information. So, they're explicitly answering the second half of t…

> Yeah, try reading a better source [1]:

It's from your source. It's the very last sentence in the article as of right now.

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