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Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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The place I work seems to be open to the fact that its not an all seeing, all knowing force in the world. Though we do use it as a quicker search engine. I've heard of companies that are shoehorning it into everything, I feel this is many companies just playing the game to get better valuations.

Using AI as a search engine seems like the worst of the worst. "You can't lick a badger twice" is a thing...

there's a reason LLM + internet search is quickly becoming the most efficient way to find information, it ingests text content, strips all fluff, customizes it to your specific query. Some offer quick source links too if you want to validate, but nobody is anything of that.

Google-Fu is being replaced with Prompting-Fu

not being allowed or choosing not to spend time learning the limits, benefits and drawback of different LLM models is basically handicapping yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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We are forcing non-use because of compliance. There is a fear that the models will scan and steal our proprietary code.

Same currently. This is actually a risk in itself though. /Some/ of your devs are going to circumvent policy and use an AI assistant. It is better at this point to have a tool available where you have a business level agreement vs. burying your head in the sand and believing that everyone is going to follow the org policy of 'no AI'.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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We recently got Claude Code and there is a very strong push to use it. I recently did for the first time. Spent 15 minutes writing a long prompt to implement a ticket. A repeated pattern of code, 5 classes + config per topic that deeply interact with each other and it did the job perfectly. It convinced me that the current code monkey jobs, which are >90%, >95%? of software engineering jobs, will disappear within 10…

> We‘ll only need senior/staff/architect level code reviewers

the problem with that is that if there are no juniors left...

Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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Yes. However, really it’s our lead VC investors who are forcing it and want to see us have 75-100% AI teams. Yet now we’re in a mini panic after customers said the core functionality of my team’s product isn’t up to muster. So we’ll probably put the AI features on hold while marketing calls our non-AI features “powered by AI”. I suppose us engineers familiar with the product had just a bit more context than the inves…

This era of forced AI features is so infuriating. Emotional anxiety ridden greedy investors are running around trying to design all our products for us. There is a great lack of critical thought and actual purposeful design due to all this hype.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using AI as a search engine seems like the worst of the worst. "You can't lick a badger twice" is a thing...

there's a reason LLM + internet search is quickly becoming the most efficient way to find information, it ingests text content, strips all fluff, customizes it to your specific query. Some offer quick source links too if you want to validate, but nobody is anything of that. Google-Fu is being replaced with Prompting-Fu not being allowed or choosing not to spend time learning the limits, benefits and drawback of diffe…

Sure. But it's like... the LLM is a tool to super charge your human association thinking. It's not a search per se, and every time you get the correct answer that's just happy accident (although I realize it happens a lot).

I'd like to see an actual LLM+search system that dreams up hypothesis and then tries to falsify them and confirm them with actual search. That seems like it could be a great search system.

But that's not what we have today afaik. What we have are systems that pump out "you can't lick a badger twice" type misinformation on a massive scale, all unique.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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Yes. I work for a large financial institution and they are all in on AI. All managers and tech leads have been instructed to apply AI as much as possible and to shoehorn it into every single thing because the company has made a BIG public announcement that their future is AI. So now they are desperately trying to find ways to back up those claims. To be honest. I think it's pretty cool tech (I mostly use copilot with…

When it works for unit tests I love it. Every once in a while it’d just work and save me time. Unfortunately a vast majority of the time I could never let it just write them and not rework them because I’ve never seen an LLM know how to write code review ready code. It takes weird short cuts and sidesteps more efficient and readable ways of doing things. And a lot of the time it was just simply wrong in its approach and I’d find myself arguing with it so much that it made more sense to write the test myself. This was on iOS and using Swift which I think most LLMs generally suck at for whatever reason, probably due to all the bad and old advice on the internet as Swift continues to change.

Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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Not forced but the tooling has been made available to those who ask. Work have provided Microsoft Copilot through Teams and Github Copilot through my IDE of choice. I found the Microsoft Copilot to be reasonably good when given a complete context with extremely limited scope such as being provided a WSDL for a SOAP service and asked to write functions that make calls and then writing unit tests for the whole thing. T…

When you say Microsoft Copilot you mean inside Visual Studio?

Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?

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At least 20% of code must be AI generated with the goal of at least 80% by the end of the year. CEO declared that vibe coders create better solutions because they are “goal oriented” as opposed to traditional coders that are “process oriented”.

They’ve basically created the ultimate “process oriented” solution to that problem.
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