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Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by smaudet »

briHass wrote: post #76
smaudet wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IT never even has to be in the same zipcode as the new laptop or ever remotely connect to it to perform maintenance tasks. That sounds nice, but that's not exactly a feature specific to AD. All perfectly possible with a couple well placed scripts and some remote logins. > TPM-backed certificates/WebAuthn for securing web apps or anything behind MS-linked SSO Yeah this is the overengineered stuff that is therefore d…

How are you having Dell ship a brand new laptop to a non-technical user and having that machine configured/software installed with a couple of scripts? Autopilot locks Windows OOBE to your Intune instance based on the serial number. The user only has to know their email and a temp password if they're new, or existing login/otp if not. The device can be remotely wiped, and it will start back over at the OOBE (Windows…

> How are you having Dell ship a brand new laptop

Have the vendor ship your image?

Or provide your own bootstrap.

Probably something with netboots as well...

If your point is there is a heavy vendor presence, yeah, sure.

But yes, it is all scriptable. Someone has to provision the device, whether that's you or Dell, that's your choice as the customer, not some inherent superiority of one system over another.

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by ChocolateGod »

jongjong wrote: post #35

I can't understand why people are still using proprietary software like Windows or OSX when superior free software exists. It's a testament to the hidden monopolizing forces which exists in our society.

Linux only just gained support for things like HDR, a decade after macOS or Windows, and the main desktop shipped by the main distributions doesn't even natively support tray icons.

I'm not sure it's superior. Although GNOMEs workspace implementation imho is vastly superior to both Windows and macOS

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by ArcHound »

Hello, author here. The main point is that it's not a financially rational decision to ditch Microsoft.

There's just no real alternative for businesses, as most use AD, Teams, Outlook/Exchange and couple others.

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by duped »

jongjong wrote: post #78
duped wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the free software isn't superior

Then why is it that every person I know or even heard about who switched to Linux never went back to OSX or Windows? The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives. Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu.

OSX hasn't existed for five years and hasn't been publicly advertised as that for much longer, so your sampling may be biased.

> The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives.

No, it's the availability of daily software that people use, like Excel, Word, Outlook, etc.

> Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu.

I daily drive a Linux distro. I don't pretend it's better for the average human than MacOS or Windows. The market reflects that. Clearly, you've never worked in an office where the only thing available is a Windows or Mac laptop because those are what IT provides and that's where your customers/users are.

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by ArcHound »

hilbert42 wrote: post #41

I still find it hard to believe that so many people and companies are prepared to use Microsoft's online/cloud services. Not ony is this a single point of failure but it's one they've no control over whatsoever. Same goes for Google/Youtube etc. It's as risky as flying a passenger jet with only one engine. What are they thinking, why are they prepared to risk everything? It boggles my mind.

It's cheap and it works well. Also integrates into everything related you'd need.

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by thefz »

gerdesj wrote: post #27
bob1029 wrote: post #18

The trick with Microsoft is to very carefully separate the good parts from the bad ones. Labeling all of Microsoft as banned is really constraining your technology options. This is a gigantic organization with a very diverse set of people in it. There aren't many things like .NET, MSSQL and Visual Studio out there. The debugger experience in VS is the holy grail if you have super nasty real world technology situation…

"There aren't many things like .NET, MSSQL and Visual Studio out there. The debugger experience in VS is the holy grail if you have super nasty real world technology situations. There's a reason every AAA game engine depends on it in some way." I'm not interested in AAA games engines writing and nor is most of the world. If that is it, then you have damned MS with (very) faint praise.

Bah, leaving out .NET like this is ignorance, considering the amount of custom applications every company has written on it.

RAD was a game changer and I think you don't know the extent and penetration of .NET in the enterprise

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by not_a_bot_4sho »

ArcHound wrote: post #80
bee_rider wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect it was prompted by the specific story about Microsoft blocking that mailbox. So, that is probably why they were “singled out.”

Hello, author here - yes exactly. And also I don't think companies depend that completely on e.g. AWS

Maybe that's a good correction or follow up article to consider. These concerns aren't specific to Microsoft in any way. They apply to all tech companies that wish to operate within the United States.

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by thefz »

nordsieck wrote: post #28
bob1029 wrote: post #18

The trick with Microsoft is to very carefully separate the good parts from the bad ones. Labeling all of Microsoft as banned is really constraining your technology options. This is a gigantic organization with a very diverse set of people in it. There aren't many things like .NET, MSSQL and Visual Studio out there. The debugger experience in VS is the holy grail if you have super nasty real world technology situation…

> There aren't many things like .NET, MSSQL and Visual Studio out there. The debugger experience in VS is the holy grail if you have super nasty real world technology situations. There's a reason every AAA game engine depends on it in some way. The reason all the AAA games are on it is because they're on the Windows platform, and more importantly their customers are on the Windows platform. If 95% of gamers ran MacOS…

Game customers are on Windows because DirectX has been superior to OpenGL - development wise - for what, 30 years?

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by protocolture »

jongjong wrote: post #78
duped wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the free software isn't superior

Then why is it that every person I know or even heard about who switched to Linux never went back to OSX or Windows? The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives. Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu.

Are you kidding? By the time you get through the first half of the requirements document of most windows customers, OSX and Linux alternatives have already been thoroughly ruled out.

Re: Microsoft Dependency Has Risks

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Post by not_a_bot_4sho »

jongjong wrote: post #78
duped wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the free software isn't superior

Then why is it that every person I know or even heard about who switched to Linux never went back to OSX or Windows? The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives. Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu.

I honestly cannot tell if this is brilliant sarcasm or digital veganism. I hope the former, because it's perfect lol
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