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Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by chillfox »

haswell wrote: post #13

In my purely anecdotal experience over the last few years, performance ranking is as follows: 1. Steam on Linux via Proton + Wayland (Niri) 2. Steam on Linux via Proton + X11 (Xfce) 3. Steam on Windows 4. Games on Linux launched via other means (it's possible I was missing out on certain flags/optimizations, but this is just about the average experience) The biggest thing I noticed when switching to Linux was an impr…

Been a Linux gamer for years now and I think you are correct on your frame rate observations in general.

If you use ZFS (single nvme) then you can beat windows load times by a fairly large margin. My husband and I have identical hardware for our gaming computers (he uses Windows and I run Linux), it's not uncommon for my computer to load games 10 seconds faster than his.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by arvinsim »

lenerdenator wrote: post #75

When SteamOS and Ganoo/L00nockz become first-class gaming citizens, that's when I'm building a gaming PC for the first time since 2012. I'm a Mac guy now mainly because of my job and I like UNIX-y stuff now, but of course, gaming is even more lacking than Linux. We're so close. Once AAA releases and GPU drivers get there, it's over the cliff, and I could see that being in the next five years.

I have always wanted Windows to move to Unix so that I can have the best of both worlds(software development and video games). Glad that we are close to that reality.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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TheBozzCL wrote: post #66

I’ve been gaming on Linux for quite a while, and it’s overall been a great experience. I mean, at least until last week, when I bought myself a new top-of-the-line laptop. I’ve been distro-hopping trying to find something that works and everything failed in its own annoying way. Part of it is because I stubbornly decided to stick to Wayland because I really wanted to use my laptop’s HDR display to the fullest. Nobara…

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Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by shmerl »

haswell wrote: post #13

In my purely anecdotal experience over the last few years, performance ranking is as follows: 1. Steam on Linux via Proton + Wayland (Niri) 2. Steam on Linux via Proton + X11 (Xfce) 3. Steam on Windows 4. Games on Linux launched via other means (it's possible I was missing out on certain flags/optimizations, but this is just about the average experience) The biggest thing I noticed when switching to Linux was an impr…

Try winewayland + Wayland.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by bbkane »

mrcsharp wrote: post #31

On the one hand I hope with the proliferation of such articles and sentiment that Microsoft would start paying more positive attention to Windows as an Operating System instead of an AI and Advertisement Machine. But then I remember that it's Nutella at the helm over there and he'll gladly give up ground to focus more on hype and share price. What a waste.

Microsoft's loss is gamers' gain in this area I think.

Besides, MSFT is almost $500, so they're doing something right.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by smallstepforman »

Every simple code base / API is faster than mature API’s due to the fact they do less. A simple string handling library which isnt biderectional, doesnt cater to people with accessibility, doesnt take locale formatting into account, doesnt cover 100% unicode spec will always be faster than complex code that does.

Code and kernels that target known hardware doesn’t need dynamic conditional code to handle unpredictable hardware. This will be faster.

General purpose operating systems handle printing events, background updates, periodic online checks, network discovery, maintenance jobs etc, all these operations consume resources and time.

Yes, Steam deck on Linux will run faster than equivalent games on Windows. But Steam deck on a smaller OS like Haiku will run even faster than Linux.

Engineering is a compromise. A F1 car can corner faster than a passanger car. But it probably sucks to reverse park. Also, I cannot imagine using a sports car for grocery shopping and hauling furniture from Ikea.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by alex77456 »

armada651 wrote: post #46
fooqux wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anti-cheat today is a stop-gap measure at best. For various reasons such as improved OS security and security concerns with this software, ring zero anti-cheat won't be around forever. Besides, it's a cat and mouse game where the vendor is the mouse. We already have the technology now to do it better. A combination of only sending what info a client should have, and server-side checks. As soon as something like UT sh…

> Besides, it's a cat and mouse game where the vendor is the mouse. The goal of anti-cheat isn't to stop the world's most advanced cheaters. Those are already unstoppable because they now use Direct Memory Access over the PCI-E bus, so the cheats don't even run on the same computer anymore. However since those cheaters are few and far in-between they can be handled through player reports. The goal is to stop the medi…

DMA hardware and cheats are getting more and more accessible. It's not just chosen few anymore

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by alex77456 »

jekwoooooe wrote: post #39

The last missing piece for full Linux gaming is anticheat. Last I looked into it, the major vendors don’t want to support it due to lack of kernel security and the ones that do, game devs refuse to allow it (destiny for example) One we can play AAA games I am literally ditching windows forever. Steamos is the best thing that has happened to gaming

There are rumours of next xbox generation supporting steam platform and 386 architecture. I know it's a bit off topic, but it could be an elegant solution to the cheating problem, gradually move to standardised consoles. This could solve the dma problem too
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