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Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

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Post by anamax »

justin66 wrote: post #62
wilfra wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

George W. Bush wasn't a one dimensional idiot either. He had a lot of charisma and people skills and is probably one of the highest Presidents of all time on the 'would like to have a beer with him' barometer, even now. I always thought of JFK as more like Obama (or rather, I thought of Obama as like JFK). As in, a genius. It is pretty clear from this application that a genius he was not.

> George W. Bush wasn't a one dimensional idiot either. He had a lot of charisma and people skills and is probably one of the highest Presidents of all time on the 'would like to have a beer with him' barometer, even now. I would have thought the beer thing was a colloquialism for approval rating. If that's so, you're incorrect: at 22% his final approval rating was the worst in history, since they began recording suc…

> If that's so, you're incorrect: at 22% his final approval rating was the worst in history, since they began recording such things in the thirties.

The day after election day, you're probably going to be telling us that 45-55% of the voters were idiots. Today, we can find large fractions which believe all sorts of idiocy (such as "think happy thoughts to help you get pregnant").

Combine that with a press that campaigned against W for his 2 terms while he stopped campaigning after his first and it's surprising that he was at 22%.

Today's happy fact, national "income" dropped more during "the recovery" than during the recession.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#83

Post by wilfra »

justin66 wrote: post #62
wilfra wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

George W. Bush wasn't a one dimensional idiot either. He had a lot of charisma and people skills and is probably one of the highest Presidents of all time on the 'would like to have a beer with him' barometer, even now. I always thought of JFK as more like Obama (or rather, I thought of Obama as like JFK). As in, a genius. It is pretty clear from this application that a genius he was not.

> George W. Bush wasn't a one dimensional idiot either. He had a lot of charisma and people skills and is probably one of the highest Presidents of all time on the 'would like to have a beer with him' barometer, even now. I would have thought the beer thing was a colloquialism for approval rating. If that's so, you're incorrect: at 22% his final approval rating was the worst in history, since they began recording suc…

Wanting to have a beer with him is certainly not a colloquialism for approval rating. It is about him seeming like a cool guy on a personal level and like one you'd like to have a one-on-one conversation and hang out with.

That characteristic may or may not have anything to do with how good you think they are doing being POTUS. I thought he was a terrible President but still would love to have a beer with him and shoot the breeze.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#84

Post by zizee »

slurgfest wrote: post #78
zizee wrote: post #54

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Perhaps because obamba is the current president? Why so sensitive?

Because I am extremely tired of HN being used to flog political propaganda. I don't like that and I don't come here for that.

Agreed that HN is better when articles are on topic.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#85

Post by justin66 »

wilfra wrote: post #83
justin66 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> George W. Bush wasn't a one dimensional idiot either. He had a lot of charisma and people skills and is probably one of the highest Presidents of all time on the 'would like to have a beer with him' barometer, even now. I would have thought the beer thing was a colloquialism for approval rating. If that's so, you're incorrect: at 22% his final approval rating was the worst in history, since they began recording suc…

Wanting to have a beer with him is certainly not a colloquialism for approval rating. It is about him seeming like a cool guy on a personal level and like one you'd like to have a one-on-one conversation and hang out with. That characteristic may or may not have anything to do with how good you think they are doing being POTUS. I thought he was a terrible President but still would love to have a beer with him and sho…

> I thought he was a terrible President but still would love to have a beer with him and shoot the breeze.

I might be selling the sophistication of the electorate short but I think this attitude is probably a little unusual. I suspect for most people likability, approval, and electability are all rather synonymous. Difficult to prove since the polls don't include the beer question, just the questions related to actual approval.

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#86

Post by justin66 »

anamax wrote: post #81
justin66 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> George W. Bush wasn't a one dimensional idiot either. He had a lot of charisma and people skills and is probably one of the highest Presidents of all time on the 'would like to have a beer with him' barometer, even now. I would have thought the beer thing was a colloquialism for approval rating. If that's so, you're incorrect: at 22% his final approval rating was the worst in history, since they began recording suc…

> If that's so, you're incorrect: at 22% his final approval rating was the worst in history, since they began recording such things in the thirties. The day after election day, you're probably going to be telling us that 45-55% of the voters were idiots. Today, we can find large fractions which believe all sorts of idiocy (such as "think happy thoughts to help you get pregnant"). Combine that with a press that campai…

> The day after election day, you're probably going to be telling us that 45-55% of the voters were idiots.

You replied to me but I really don't know where you were trying to go with this. I assure you, I think way more than half of voters are idiots. ;)

(at least in their capacity as voters)

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#87

Post by joshAg »

wilfra wrote: post #52
joshAg wrote: post #42

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those are his high school grades, not his university grades.

This is his application to Harvard. Of course they are his high school grades...

I didn't know bush's high school grades were released, and i couldn't find them in a cursory google search. do you have a link?

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#88

Post by superuser2 »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #82
superuser2 wrote: post #75

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http://npc.fas.harvard.edu/

Yeah; that calculator comes to about $60,000 for her. Ouch.

That makes her family extremely well off. (Unless maybe you're in an area with super high living expenses and Harvard doesn't adjust for that?)

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#89

Post by JoeAltmaier »

superuser2 wrote: post #88
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah; that calculator comes to about $60,000 for her. Ouch.

That makes her family extremely well off. (Unless maybe you're in an area with super high living expenses and Harvard doesn't adjust for that?)

Very strange; a product being sold for a price that depends upon how much money you have. Isn't that called scalping?

Re: JFK's Application to Harvard

#90

Post by superuser2 »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #89
superuser2 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That makes her family extremely well off. (Unless maybe you're in an area with super high living expenses and Harvard doesn't adjust for that?)

Very strange; a product being sold for a price that depends upon how much money you have. Isn't that called scalping?

If you want to look at education as a privilege earned by having wealthy parents, maybe.

If $60k feels like a burden to you, imagine what it would be to the child of a single parent making $35k. If everyone were charged the same price, only the very rich could afford it.

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