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US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by h2zizzle »

zeroCalories wrote: post #68
autobodie wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's called capitalism — capital has the last word. As we have seen clearly, even Trump is overwhelmingly limited by the constraints of capital.

Capitalism is when people vote away their own rights? Leftist analysis can't explain why Bernie out-spent Biden and got crushed. There are strong capital interests on both sides of this issue.

>Leftist analysis can't explain why Bernie out-spent Biden and got crushed.

Haven't we been saying it was stolen through suspect political maneuvering and the compromised nature of mass and social media as it exists today?

As a black person, it was not lost on me the difficulty CNN et al. had in finding black voters to interview, until the nation NEEDED to know that black South Carolinian voters definitely hated Sanders and backed Biden.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

nixgeek wrote: post #29
HillRat wrote: post #14

Genuinely curious what legal waivers they’ve been afforded, since generally speaking “holding a decision-making position in the part of the uniformed services you also sell to” is very much adjacent to profiteering and disturbingly in the vicinity to honest services fraud. How do you disentangle private interests from the public good, even if these guys are operating in good faith? Also, give a brief thought to those…

I think the question is are the Armed Forces served better by having this expertise available (on a commissioned part-time basis, with modified basic requirements) or by maintaining a bar that the person has to go through OCS and pass APFT? You probably can’t have both — not they couldn’t pass APFT (with varying degrees of fitness program required) but more likely they cannot commit the time required to do OCS and AP…

Rules matter. There are processes to change the rules officially. We are a nation of laws.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by infamouscow »

epistasis wrote: post #54
max_ wrote: post #24

- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies - [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio - [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to - All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel - Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel - Top executives formally recruited into US Army. USA is sleep walking into something very…

I would urge anybody who wants to soothe their fears to avoid reading up on Curtis Yarvin.

Giving federal employees 6+ month severance packages is a far cry from what Yarvin wrote ought to happen them.

Trump really can't get anything right.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by jackstraw42 »

OrvalWintermute wrote: post #67

As a veteran, now civil servant, I think this is an excellent thing for the US military to do. BIAS: I am a PLTR shareholder and I collab with at least one of the units involved. Another similar commissioning was the founder of Dragos, Robert M Lee who was previously a Cyber officer in the Air Force. We need top talent from industry. These highly skilled individuals will be good pickups for the work confronting our n…

> We need top talent from industry.

Fair, but is that what they're doing here? I don't know much about the individuals involved, but I sure know the companies they're associated with. The concerning part for me is that this new "Detachment 201" seems less about these individuals' expertise and more about the companies they represent and can provide access to.

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Post by lemoncookiechip »

autobodie wrote: post #47
exe34 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> USA is sleep walking into something very nasty. I still don't know what it is. It's called fascism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_paramilitary

No, it's called capitalism — capital has the last word. As we have seen clearly, even Trump is overwhelmingly limited by the constraints of capital.

Fascism had it's roots in Capitalism. The elites not only welcomed it, but they backed it, because it helped shut down workers right movements and keep things stable at a time when the workers right movement was hurting their bottom line by asking their bosses for living wages and humane working conditions, which they saw as Socialism and Communism.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by [deleted] »

infamouscow wrote: post #84
epistasis wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would urge anybody who wants to soothe their fears to avoid reading up on Curtis Yarvin.

Giving federal employees 6+ month severance packages is a far cry from what Yarvin wrote ought to happen them. Trump really can't get anything right.

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Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by melling »

epistasis wrote: post #54
max_ wrote: post #24

- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies - [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio - [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to - All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel - Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel - Top executives formally recruited into US Army. USA is sleep walking into something very…

I would urge anybody who wants to soothe their fears to avoid reading up on Curtis Yarvin.

Nice trick. I couldn’t stop myself from looking:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/09/curtis-yarvin-...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/18/magazine/curtis-yarvin-in...

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Post by epistasis »

sitkack wrote: post #73
epistasis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It did address the content of the article: it suggested a more reliable source that is saying the same thing. Questioning the integrity of a source is not an ad adhominem argument. Saying that a conclusion is false because of the speaker would be an ad hominem.

Attacking anything other than the argument itself is fallacious. The core of tenet described in Ad Hominem is that the argument is being diminished because of who is delivering it, if it is a person, a robot, a magazine or parrot doesn't change that the argument itself is being ignored.

That is absolutely untrue. One can comment on the unreliability and inappropriateness of a source without impugning the material, and that's exactly what's been done here. I don't think you are fully reading what was written.
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