Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

NexusMods Changes Hands

nexusmods.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 99 posts

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#81

Post by pylotlight »

brendoelfrendo wrote: post #53
AlexandrB wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who are these nazis you're talking about? People posting a mod that removes a trigger warning from a remake of a 20 year old game[1]? Some pretty weak-sauce nazis. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1atpq7d/nexus_mod...

Lmao that mod is clearly targeted at the worst kind of right-wing snowflakes. People who can't even see a trigger warning without getting incensed and try to legitimize their behavior by saying it's "misinformative," but then dog whistle who they're really talking to with the Pepe frog. Nazis are, by default, weak-sauce; not being able to tolerate something this innocuous is both weak-sauce and perfectly coherent wit…

You can't claim law of triviality when you rot were the ones that cared enough in the first place to change it. Changing settings back to match reality and original game settings is the only sane approach here, objectively.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#83

Post by altairprime »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #14
xnorswap wrote: post #6

Hopefully this inspires more developers to either build-in their own mod browsers ( e.g. Factorio ), or for communities to build their own open source mod platforms ( e.g. KSP's CKAN ). Both of those are preferable to the relative hell that is dealing with nexus mods.

I consider Nexus Mod the Fandom of modding sites. It's used because it has the most existing content, not because it does anything especially well (download speed limits are irritating and to me make no sense).

Bandwidth contracts can be defined as fixed-cost billing for 95th +/- percentile of usage per period with charges of peak bursts exceed x% of period, without charging for bytes transferred at all; before S3, this was typical, and it’s still available from providers today. Under that model, free user rate limits ensure that their peak possible bandwidth bill from concurrent unpaid users fits within their (cheap and fixed) contractual limits, while paid users pay for a different endpoint whose bandwidth contract is usage-billed and/or has a higher 95th percentile rate and/or has a higher peak burst cap so that rate limits aren’t necessary. This hybrid approach lets them provide both {cheap, reliable, slow} free service, and {costly, reliable, fast} paid service at a much lower total cost than if they went with one or the other approach exclusively. (Elsethread, a suggestion that they switch to torrents would provide {cheap, unreliable, fast} service, completing the “pick two” trifecta.)

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#84

Post by AlexandrB »

brendoelfrendo wrote: post #68
AlexandrB wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nazis are, by default, weak-sauce; not being able to tolerate something this innocuous is both weak-sauce and perfectly coherent with facism's inherent insecurity. I read stuff like this and I can't help but marvel at the irony when we're talking about people getting mad enough at an optional mod to get it banned.

Who's mad? I am not mad that their mod exists, I think they're sad snowflakes. I'm mad that people think removing intolerance from our communities is somehow hypocritical. The paradox of tolerance tells us that a community that tolerates intolerance turns into an intolerant community. Prune out the racists, the fascists, and the bigots at every opportunity or else they will ruin your society. Those who are intolerant…

The trap a lot of the left has fallen into is often defining genuine disagreement over their ideas as "racist", "fascist", or "bigotry". This keeps those ideas from being challenged and refined thus making them ultimately unconvincing. "Tolerance" itself is a very loose concept here that has come to mean mostly the same as "political agreement". There's also no mechanism that I can see for correcting this issue. In this frame, the bar for what constitutes "fascism" keeps getting lower such that even mainstream political positions from 10-15 years ago are being labelled as "fascist" in some circumstances.

None of this seems healthy for the future of left wing thought and is already leading to a backlash (one naturally being called "fascist").

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#85

Post by diggan »

pylotlight wrote: post #81
brendoelfrendo wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lmao that mod is clearly targeted at the worst kind of right-wing snowflakes. People who can't even see a trigger warning without getting incensed and try to legitimize their behavior by saying it's "misinformative," but then dog whistle who they're really talking to with the Pepe frog. Nazis are, by default, weak-sauce; not being able to tolerate something this innocuous is both weak-sauce and perfectly coherent wit…

You can't claim law of triviality when you rot were the ones that cared enough in the first place to change it. Changing settings back to match reality and original game settings is the only sane approach here, objectively.

> is the only sane approach here, objectively

How is any of this "objective" at all? The whole discussion from beginning to end is very subjective, both ways, but maybe I've missed out on new usage of this word.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#86

Post by subscribed »

StefanBatory wrote: post #31
xingped wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll never understand why Steam Workshop didn't take off as the de facto mod delivery platform over NexusMods or other random sites. It seemed perfectly positioned to do so.

Because it doesn't work with pirated games. Saying that only half jokingly.

Untrue. I downloaded a couple of mods for my GOG release of the game. Works well. Few more steps but otherwise doable.

The truth is that Workshop is worse and aimed ONLY at Steam. So why would anyone bother.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#87

Post by Tadpole9181 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #44
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't read comments like this without that one human thumb guy screaming FUCKING PRONOUNS into his webcam at full volume. Gamers are so sensitive.

But don't you DARE make a mod to change the pronoun selection back to male/female or we'll BAN[1] you from our site (because you're so sensitive). [1] https://www.eurogamer.net/starfields-pronoun-removal-mod-has...

Except that modder explicitly stated that the mod was created to offend trans people. Nexus has a right to not host transphobes who are using their platform in a way that could hurt their business.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#88

Post by Tadpole9181 »

diggan wrote: post #39
belval wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes it is very interesting how the comment section is overtly negative yet NexusMods is one of the rare thing that "just works" for me. Even my girlfriend who is not well-versed in tech at all mods her Skyrim/Oblivion herself thanks to how easy it is with NexusMods.

Judging by your two's comments, there seem to be a mismatch what people think of when they hear "Nexus Mods". Originally, it was just a website where people uploaded mods, and others downloaded them and manually re-organized stuff on disk, or with some game-specific mod manager. But what you two seem to be talking about, is the relatively new mod manager that Nexus also has, which basically allows you to one-click in…

Relatively new? I feel like a decade ago I was using their mod manager (pre-Vortex) and it "just worked".

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#89

Post by Tadpole9181 »

brianjlogan wrote: post #25

Honestly the comments so far don't line up with my experience. Possibly for the very experienced devs/games on HN who are making their own mods Nexus was limiting and annoying. For me it was the level of difficulty just low enough I didn't have to work to enjoy mods. I remember trying to install mods on Halo CE pre mod managers and it was a nightmare. Did Nexus solve all of that? No but it was an easy enough experien…

Seriously, Nexus works great and I vastly prefer it to the clunky Team workshop or, God forbid, manually installing everything.

I'm convinced a ton of people commenting here haven't even used Nexus in years or convinced themselves they're "power users" who don't need to use a launcher, just to blame Nexus on the subsequent pain.

Some of them are clearly commenting in bad faith though, and have never used Nexus and are just slinging mud because of their audacity to moderate offensive content or inflammatory users.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

#90

Post by brendoelfrendo »

AlexandrB wrote: post #84
brendoelfrendo wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's mad? I am not mad that their mod exists, I think they're sad snowflakes. I'm mad that people think removing intolerance from our communities is somehow hypocritical. The paradox of tolerance tells us that a community that tolerates intolerance turns into an intolerant community. Prune out the racists, the fascists, and the bigots at every opportunity or else they will ruin your society. Those who are intolerant…

The trap a lot of the left has fallen into is often defining genuine disagreement over their ideas as "racist", "fascist", or "bigotry". This keeps those ideas from being challenged and refined thus making them ultimately unconvincing. "Tolerance" itself is a very loose concept here that has come to mean mostly the same as "political agreement". There's also no mechanism that I can see for correcting this issue. In t…

It's not a trap the left falls into. If anything, the left is overzealous in internal tone policing, to the point where activists and organizers wish it would become less of a distraction. You have organizations and individuals of prominence in the US political sphere who are openly and actively try to promote bigoted and fascist talking points and implement them in government, often using long-debunked arguments or outright lies, and the people insisting that these ideas are not bigoted or fascist are either being duped or arguing in bad faith. I do not and will not attribute good faith to reactionary, white-supremacist, ultra-nationalist right-wing movements as we have in the US.
Post reply on HN