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You're going to spend a little over $1k to ramp up your skills with AI-aided coding. It's dirt cheap in the grand scheme of things.
How are those without that kind of scratch supposed to keep up with those that do?
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#82What really baffles me is the claims from: Anthropic: 80% of the code is generated by AI OpenAI: 70-80% Google/Microsoft: 30%
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#83Re: Generative AI coding tools and agents do not work for me
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're going to spend a little over $1k to ramp up your skills with AI-aided coding. It's dirt cheap in the grand scheme of things.
do I get a refund if I spend a grand and I'm still not convinced? at some point I'm going to start lying to myself to justify the cost and I don't know how much y'all earn but $1k is getting close
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> You might prefer manual coding, but you might just be bad at AI coding and you might prefer it if you improved at it. ok but how much am I supposed to spend before I supposedly just "get good"? Because based on the free trials and the pocket change I've spent, I don't consider the ROI worth it.
You're going to spend a little over $1k to ramp up your skills with AI-aided coding. It's dirt cheap in the grand scheme of things.
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#86Re: Generative AI coding tools and agents do not work for me
#87> It takes me at least the same amount of time to review code not written by me than it would take me to write the code myself, if not more. As someone who uses Claude Code heavily, this is spot on. LLMs are great, but I find the more I cede control to them, the longer it takes to actually ship the code. I’ve found that the main benefit for me so far is the reduction of RSI symptoms, whereas the actual time savings a…
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> But it's important to realize that AI coding is itself a skill that you can develop. It's not just , pick the best tool and let it go. Managing prompts and managing context has a much higher skill ceiling than many people realize No, it's not. It's something you can pick in a few minutes (or an hour if you're using more advanced tooling, mostly spending it setting things up). But it's not like GDB or using UNIX as…
I do not agree it is something you can pick up in an hour. You have to learn what AI is good at, how different models code, how to prompt to get the results you want. If anything, prompting well is akin to learning a new programming language. What words do you use to explain what you want to achieve? How do you reference files/sections so you don't waste context on meaningless things? I've been using AI tools to code…
>I do not agree it is something you can pick up in an hour.
But it's also interesting that the industry is selling the opposite ( with AI anyone can code / write / draw / make music ).
>You have to learn what AI is good at.
More often than not I find it you need to learn what the AI is bad at, and this is not a fun experience.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But it's important to realize that AI coding is itself a skill that you can develop. It's not just , pick the best tool and let it go. Managing prompts and managing context has a much higher skill ceiling than many people realize No, it's not. It's something you can pick in a few minutes (or an hour if you're using more advanced tooling, mostly spending it setting things up). But it's not like GDB or using UNIX as…
> It's something you can pick in a few minutes You can start in a few minutes, sure. (Also you can start using gdb in minutes) But GP is talking about the ceiling. Do you know which models work better for what kind of task? Do you know what format is better for extra files? Do you know when it's beneficial to restart / compress context? Are you using single prompts or multi stage planning trees? How are you managing…
For example, I have a custom planning prompt that I will give a paragraph or two of information to, and then it will produce a specification document from that by searching the web and reading the code and documentation. And then I will review that specification document before passing it back to Claude Code to implement the change.
This works because it is a lot easier to review a specification document than it is to review the final code changes. So, if I understand it and guide it towards how I would want the feature to be implemented at the specification stage, that sets me up to have a much easier time reviewing the final result as well. Because it will more closely match my own mental model of the codebase and how things should be implemented.
And it feels like that is barely scratching the surface of setting up the coding environment for Claude Code to work in.
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#90> The truth that may be shocking to some is that open source contributions submitted by users do not really save me time either, because I also feel I have to do a rigorous review of them. This truly is shocking. If you are reviewing every single line of every package you intend to use how do you ever write any code?