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Re: Seedance 1.0

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I imagine there are some boundary constraints - mobile video can only be so compelling. I would guess we're already pretty close to that threshold.

It would be something like breaking bad but cut intentionally to you specific responses. A drama you can't look away from. It will be like wirehacking, but in visual form.

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Re: Seedance 1.0

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Like every AI launch demo I've ever seen, the results are unbelievably high quality, but if you take a second to read the prompts they never quite match. Here basically every single example is ignoring a portion of the prompt; sometimes the camera directions, sometimes the atmospheric description, sometimes making up very distinct elements that were not mentioned at all. People talk about "AI slop" because these models are really good when you just want "content" and you don't really care exactly what it looks like, but if you are trying to produce something specific, which you are in every real-world use case I can think of, it is very frustrating and often impossible to get there.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt.

AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity.

Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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> Where do you think these models will get the source data for these amazing generations? Doesn't matter one bit, just like mp3 and torrents didn't stop digital music. If you care, there are already "ethical models", there are synthetic datasets, and soon rights holders will be licensing training data. But it literally doesn't matter. The entire world will be on board soon. IP holders included. > Your slop-generating…

> Doesn't matter one bit, just like mp3 and torrents didn't stop digital music. mp3 and torrents are storage and distributions mechanisms, not production ones. This is an inappropriate analogy.

It's entirely appropriate. Those were the first digital distribution routes.

As much as the RIAA hated digital, they eventually caved.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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> Where do you think these models will get the source data for these amazing generations? Doesn't matter one bit, just like mp3 and torrents didn't stop digital music. If you care, there are already "ethical models", there are synthetic datasets, and soon rights holders will be licensing training data. But it literally doesn't matter. The entire world will be on board soon. IP holders included. > Your slop-generating…

So many words completely failing to address a single word I wrote

What is with people being so mean?

Re: Seedance 1.0

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I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt. AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity. Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Ironically I think it might, by serving as a synthetic generator to learn to better understand artistic values for those who need it. We wouldn't know what is ever so slightly wrong about replicator Earl Grey, without trying it for a while.

A lot of people right now claim that they cannot tell apart AI output from human art, while many of them seem to grow rather agitated and stressed after repeated exposure. I bet they're going to be forced into exclusively making art manually, or viewing exclusively human art at some point, and through that ways, AIs could increase value of human made data.

I find it funny that wishes for AI arts always seem to be more anime and end to Marvel slop. They want human slop go away thanks to AI slop? I'm not meaning to call out someone for contradiction or inconsistency - as I do understand the sentiment. But it gives me chuckles.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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post #84

I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt. AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity. Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

I think they are talking about making their own series, not selling something, which will be valuable to exactly one person (or in this case a group chat). Which is awesome.

Re: Seedance 1.0

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Some of the shots are impressive but… Even among these hand-picked examples there’s a plenty of unnatural movement. And it seems like it was trained on the most hyperactive subset of tiktok as it apparently can’t hold a scene for more than 5 seconds.

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Re: Seedance 1.0

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post #84

I look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.

Literally nobody will give a fuck about a 24 episode series that exists because you spent a few seconds writing a prompt. AI doesn’t increase the value of content, it makes it meaningless by destroying scarcity. Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Like the hot take but it is needlessly negative because it doesn’t go far enough.

You could make the same argument about musical instruments, or being able to record and playback music, dj tools, etc.

I think what you get is the power law distribution for tons of content. Some of the stuff is still mega valuable, but distribution just gets more and more important and it’s harder and harder to break through. This is what the “democratization” of any previously difficulty-gated endeavor does.

More niches will be created, more fragmentation in tastes, stuff like that. Not just completely valueless content.

Incumbents and platform providers get to win through it all though, because humans still want to fill their time.

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