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Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
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We need more like you to teach how to do this right. I tell my friends that we need to look to Hong Kong and France in case the protests move to Texas.
In Texas, if you drop rocks on someone or destroy their property, they are, in many instances, free to use deadly force to stop you.
Such "protests" would be much rarer and shorter in Texas.
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#83This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.
I'm not american but I remember marines being mobilized for hurricane Katrina in New Orleans too. Funny that if it's so bad to deploy them, why is it OK to deploy them in other countries?
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#84Soldiers, especially Marines, are trained to follow orders and kill. They are not specialists in de-escalation or crowd control. Here's hoping this is purely an optics play and they are only there to waste money and incite nationalism. Because if this escalates in any way and the US military turns on Americans, its hard to understate how bad things could get.
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This started with rioters attacking the legitimate authorities (ICE) as they tried to enforce long-established law that most of the population supports (you can't be in the country without citizenship, visa, or similar authorisation). Escalating to the national guard and ultimately the military is established best practice when the rule of law breaks down in a given locality. No fascism there (if anything, letting rioters run wild as long as they're going after the undesirables is a well known fascist tactic)
Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#85Soldiers, especially Marines, are trained to follow orders and kill. They are not specialists in de-escalation or crowd control. Here's hoping this is purely an optics play and they are only there to waste money and incite nationalism. Because if this escalates in any way and the US military turns on Americans, its hard to understate how bad things could get.
> Here's hoping this is purely an optics play and they are only there to waste money and incite nationalism They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt at this point. Ask yourself what the MAGA reaction would've been to troops being deployed to their riot at the Capitol.
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#86Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Your protests are tame: no fireworks, a few tyre fire lasting like a hour, no BF60s Tame is good. The administration wants the protests to turn into a flashpoint so they can send in more military control. Lighting things on fire and launching fireworks is enough to create the tipping point. Don't encourage this stuff.
The onion predicted your comment! https://theonion.com/protesters-urged-not-to-give-trump-admi...
It does make a big difference in the fight for hearts and minds.
The reason why non-violent protest works is not because it prevents escalation, but because when escalation does inevitably happen, the masses will think the escalation was unwarranted and be sympathetic to the protestors. The worst possible thing for a protest movement to do is scaring the masses, since then they will flock to the state for "protection" and give the state carte blanche to get the situation under control.
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#88Whether or not someone supports the current topic of the mostly peaceful and somewhat rebellious and violent protests, this much is clear. You either support somewhat violent protests, regardless of topic, expecting that law enforcement and civilians will handle it amongst themselves, or you are authoritarian and demand that the federal government intervene with the US Armed Forces the moment someone throws a rock at…
>lacks values
I really hated when Fox news would say things like this and I hate it when individuals do. It makes it impossible for us to communicate.
Just because the other side doesn't share your values doesn't mean they have none. You might say their values are evil. That's a different discussion, but they're rarely just reacting blindly.
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#90This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.
I'm not american but I remember marines being mobilized for hurricane Katrina in New Orleans too. Funny that if it's so bad to deploy them, why is it OK to deploy them in other countries?
Being deployed to help in a disaster is very different from being deployed to quell protests.