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Fancy! Not even Front Page Express first?
Don't remind me, Front Page Express' generated HTML was the stuff of nightmares.
Still better than Microsoft Word.
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Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#82I was there, 3,000 years ago. I remember fights over whether or not navigation in frames was bad practice. Not iframes, frames. Who here remembers frames? I remember using HTTP 204 before AJAX to send messages to the server without reloading the page. I remember building... image maps[1]... professionally in the early 2000. I remember spending multiple days drawing the borders of States on a map of the country in Dre…
My personal website uses an image map for its main navigation menu. It still works just fine.
Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#83Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#84I was there, 3,000 years ago. I remember fights over whether or not navigation in frames was bad practice. Not iframes, frames. Who here remembers frames? I remember using HTTP 204 before AJAX to send messages to the server without reloading the page. I remember building... image maps[1]... professionally in the early 2000. I remember spending multiple days drawing the borders of States on a map of the country in Dre…
I remember working for a client who needed to support IE6 (with all the insane bugs/quirks/limitations) and I’d despair every time the designers would hand over a Photoshop design with rounded corners. They also needed it to be responsive (at the time mostly just different desktop sizes). Would usually require cutting the corners out and positioning them in table cells. There’s a certain amount of dev resilience you build having to do stuff like that by hand!
Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#85I was there, 3,000 years ago. I remember fights over whether or not navigation in frames was bad practice. Not iframes, frames. Who here remembers frames? I remember using HTTP 204 before AJAX to send messages to the server without reloading the page. I remember building... image maps[1]... professionally in the early 2000. I remember spending multiple days drawing the borders of States on a map of the country in Dre…
My personal website uses an image map for its main navigation menu. It still works just fine.
You're in good company, Paul Graham's site does as well.
Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
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I developed web software with frames and I thought it was perfectly fine. To this day I still don't understand the issue with frames. People sometimes mention accessibility for screen readers, but nothing more specific than that, so I still don't know what the actual problem is.
All content on the web should have a unique, linkable, URL. Frameset breaks that.
That doesn't stop today's dynamically updating pages that also break the back button.
Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#87I was there, 3,000 years ago. I remember fights over whether or not navigation in frames was bad practice. Not iframes, frames. Who here remembers frames? I remember using HTTP 204 before AJAX to send messages to the server without reloading the page. I remember building... image maps[1]... professionally in the early 2000. I remember spending multiple days drawing the borders of States on a map of the country in Dre…
I was expecting you to tell me that all of these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe..."
Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#88in the German Mozilla docs there's was a warning: "this tag is one of the worst things you can do to your users, please don't use this" which they sadly removed.
here is the German version: https://x.com/K0IN1/status/1025459517499367425
Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#89I was there, 3,000 years ago. I remember fights over whether or not navigation in frames was bad practice. Not iframes, frames. Who here remembers frames? I remember using HTTP 204 before AJAX to send messages to the server without reloading the page. I remember building... image maps[1]... professionally in the early 2000. I remember spending multiple days drawing the borders of States on a map of the country in Dre…
I made a webchat with frames; an infinitely-loading top part for the text, and the bottom an input box that received 204 to not reload when you sent a message. I guess that was the most elegant way to do it in the IE4+ days. The top part could also receive a small that would reload the frame on the right, containing the user list. Fun times. Used it with a couple class mates around 2000 iirc.
It's still a way (with a frame autorefresh) to make chats on Tor, since many users will have JS turned off
Re: <Blink> and <Marquee> (2020)
#90The amusing thing is that even today, there's a "blink" method on JavaScript strings. It's totally useless today, but it's still there for whatever reason. In fact, they don't even HTML escape the argument, so they were arguably terrible from the beginning.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Refe...