Live data from Hacker News

Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

techcrunch.com

81–90 of 218 posts

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Don't be evil" does mean that you should't abuse FRAND obligations. Hence why Google is being investigated for anti-competitive behaviour by ITC/EU. Given the important of FRAND in the standards process this is very much being evil.

Note that none of the patents they are suing over this time are FRAND patents.

"this time".

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#83

I stopped buying Apple products because of this patent nonsense, so I guess that means I can't buy that Nexus 7 I was eyeing either. Why is it that giant companies consistently act so evil?

Why is Apple evil for defending itself from companies who are copying much of the look and feel of their phones?

If you invented a new approach to smartphones that became really successful and changed the industry, wouldn't you want to protect your hard work from others who copied it?

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it okay for Google to do it but not say, Oracle? It's ridiculous no matter who does it.

Because Apple attacked first

I don't think that Apple suing to protect its intellectual property is wrong. But even if I did, I don't buy the logic that doing the 'wrong' thing is okay because the other guy did it first.

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Don't be evil" does mean that you should't abuse FRAND obligations. Hence why Google is being investigated for anti-competitive behaviour by ITC/EU. Given the important of FRAND in the standards process this is very much being evil.

Note that none of the patents they are suing over this time are FRAND patents.

I know. My point is that Google left the "don't be evil" mantra behind a long time ago.

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#87

Does anybody else feel all the tech giants standing around with their patents in hand is like all the characters standing around with guns like at the end of Reservoir Dogs? "Nobody innovate or we'll shoot!" It's intriguing at first, but you can only keep it up so long before the plot line gets annoying because no one is doing anything (or innovating), or someone gets shot.

let's be clear. this war is apple's doing, not "all the tech giants".

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#88

Does anybody else feel all the tech giants standing around with their patents in hand is like all the characters standing around with guns like at the end of Reservoir Dogs? "Nobody innovate or we'll shoot!" It's intriguing at first, but you can only keep it up so long before the plot line gets annoying because no one is doing anything (or innovating), or someone gets shot.

I disagree. It's more about money than innovation. The non-copy arrangement that Microsoft & Apple have led to Windows Phone which I think most would agree is the most unique and maybe the most innovative platform. Would consumers be better off if Microsoft could have puked out an iOS/Android clone instead? Arguably Windows Phone as we know it may be suffering commercially because it is a departure from the iOS/Android model. So in this case is being less innovative actually a smarter business move? If so that's really troubling. We are not seeing small companies getting stomped out over patents but instead giants fighting over who gets the most money selling essentially the same basic products.

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#89
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What changed was that Nokia was on the rocks, so they launched their missiles. And, as is the way with mutually assured destruction scenarios, Apple responded, and everyone else got dragged in one way or another.

Yep, MAD only works until the first guy pulls the trigger.

Ref: World War One

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#90

We all knew that the second someone started wielding their "defensive" patents the whole system was going to fall apart. Well...here we go I guess.

Yep, someone decided that MAD was worth it or that they could win. It certainly looks like it's going to be a fun time for the lawyers and people with popcorn. So far we've got Apple suing Motorola, Motorola suing back. Apple suing Samsung, and now Google suing Apple. Any others I've missed?

Someone?

I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this.

- Steve Jobs

Post reply on HN