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Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Has your eye been recorded at the store?

What does a picture of your eye allow that fingerprints, face scans and other passport biometrics that have already been collected and linked do not? Honest question.

> that have already been collected

That would require a big "source" for this claim.

Feel free to downvote me, please provide a source because it's false so far.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Because they have to be able to sell you the cure to the disease they created: pretty soon nearly all content online will be AI-generated, and the only way you'll be able to tell if you're talking to a human is with cryptographically-sealed boot chains, verified with remote attestation, and with this eyeball device at the end to make sure there's a human there.

In the future: Easy Remote Job Opportunity! Pay is $1/hr. Perfect for retirees, disabled, and even kids! Requirements: have an eye ball. Duties: whatever you want, except when this device beeps, look into the camera. Is Amazon's Mechanical Turk or whatever paying people to solve captchas still a thing?

I didn't even think of this workaround. Genius in its simplicity.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Even if you 100% believe in your heart that Altman would never do anything negative with these scans that doesn't mean someone else won't if/when they get access to them. People may trusted 23andMe with their genetic data but now no one knows who will end up owning it and why the buyer believes buying the data is profitable. https://wydaily.com/latest/regional-national/2025/05/08/23an...

When talking about government surveillance, people often ask some version of 'well, if you're not doing anything wrong, what are you afraid of?'. My response is always, 'It's not that I don't trust our current government, I don't trust all future governments that come after this one'. I hope given the recent events of having some hired thugs rifle through government databases (including the OPM, which supposedly has…

Why would people distrust governments more than companies? I never understood that part.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Everyone deserves food and political freedom in my opinion. We could probably do it too if we actually tried.

I agree! I think what rubbed me was the idea that the people taking Altman’s deal “do not know the consequences of what they are doing.” Down that road lies a paternalistic flavor of charity, a spirit of “protecting them from themselves.” And that seems to evoke the idea that poor is the same as ignorant. That there’s only one correct value to assign to your biometric data, and anyone who values theirs differently mu…

Poor people are not ignorant, they are desperate though. And that's why using their private data is despicable.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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For e-commerce to continue, there has to be a way to confirm that the transfer of funds from a bank or credit account to the vendor’s account is approved by a human who controls the bank/credit account. As AI-powered scams become more sophisticated, this confirmation will get harder/more expensive, to the point where e-commerce might not work for most goods. Perhaps generating “proof of humanity” digital signatures f…

In the US there is a bill that's been floating around Congress for a while called the improving digital identity act.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/884...

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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When talking about government surveillance, people often ask some version of 'well, if you're not doing anything wrong, what are you afraid of?'. My response is always, 'It's not that I don't trust our current government, I don't trust all future governments that come after this one'. I hope given the recent events of having some hired thugs rifle through government databases (including the OPM, which supposedly has…

Why would people distrust governments more than companies? I never understood that part.

Because the government has more power over you. Thus, they deserve more scrutiny and suspicion.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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I'm an ophthalmologist. I look at irises all day. People's irises change over the course of their life. Sometimes dramatically if they have some kind of pathology. Are they updating their model periodically? What keeps someone from getting locked out of their crypto gains if they develop an iris nevus or have cataract surgery or start on flomax?

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Poor people would sell a kidney if the otherwise consequence is starvation. That is not a good measure for the willingness of a decision

True, but does that mean the solution is to force the starvation because their choice to alleviate it was insufficiently willing for our tastes? At least they’ll starve with two kidneys, and we hope the would-be kidney recipient can get by on dialysis a while longer? By all means let’s engineer a world where people are never faced with crappy choices. But people are living in the present, not the glorious future: Tak…

But laying the cornerstone for a dystopian future doesn‘t help either.

By your logic we shouldn’t fight child labor or drug trafficking.

All that feeds people too.

Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball

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Meanwhile, in reality, banks have solved proof of humanity, identity (KYC), and financial services for a long time. Any account in the world can be proven human by making a debit/credit card transaction from a card with a matching name. For the first time, you can now give your biometrics to OpenAI to do nothing more than you already can. This is just a pure cult of personality.

I can only assume that you don’t work in financial technology if you believe that KYC is a solved problem.

Proving authenticity in an increasingly diasporic society is difficult.

We should seek to either reduce or embrace entropy in the design of our systems. You either want systems which prove there are no Sybil attacks, or you manufacture halls of mirrors.

This is a continuous battle, there’s no panacea here, even the eye scan has threat vectors.

Calling KYC a solved problem is ludicrous.

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