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The dark side of account bans

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Re: The dark side of account bans

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> I couldn’t access their menus. They were only on Instagram, and it’d force a sign in before showing me the content. > so many restaurants and cafes here purely use Instagram (or sometimes Facebook) to host their menus. That's idiotic. Really, reaaaally idiotic. Like, "talk to the manager and tell them they are doing a very stupid thing" levels of idiotic. This "we're too modern and digital to get out heads out of o…

I really don’t understand why some societies rely so much on Meta services, specially considering they are SO MUCH WORSE to administer, specially for a non-tech user, compared to creating a website in Wix (or even a free Wordpress.com account), or maybe updating your Google Maps business with the right information. Maybe that shows a lack of critical thinking in the general population? I.e.: people must be using FB/I…

They simply go where the eyeballs spend their time. It sucks there, but what are you going to do? You're competing with 20 other restaurants, and they're all on Instagram.

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I also lost my Facebook account a few years ago, because someone tried to hack it I think. Similarly there were no open avenues of appeal. By a big fluke I actually did some work for FB and in the process they unlocked it. But yeah, monopolies controlling access to public services with no oversight sucks.

My buddy forgot his old Facebook but some scammer found his old password on one of those pwned websites. A year ago his old account started selling random things like a huge swing set in California. I always wondered what they were up to with his account of Facebook marketplace.

Re: The dark side of account bans

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Users reporting users is a terrible way to manage account misuse/bad behaviour. Your average user on your average platform is a low form of life incase you hadn’t noticed.

Worse is if your competitors report you and get you banned while having profitable ads, there goes a large marketing channel and likely a chunk of revenue, think shopify stores, restauranteurs. Reddit is full of these stories

Re: The dark side of account bans

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Users reporting users is a terrible way to manage account misuse/bad behaviour. Your average user on your average platform is a low form of life incase you hadn’t noticed.

It's an okay way as long as the ultimate decisions are made by real humans.

Real humans are really good at choosing the path of least resistance. E.g. Reddit's outsourced 'Anti Evil' team.

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I believe that part of the problem is how trigger happy the platforms are to reports of CSAM and other "black issues". They don't do any research, they just ban and call it a day. Your government could go to them and say, "hey, you should do due research before banning a user,", and the platform will turn back and say "you passed a law last month where I would be banned from operating in the country if I allowed any…

> we might lose the social networks altogether. Don't tempt me with a better world.

I honestly think that's the way things are going. People are tired of AI generated junk and doom scrolling. I notice a lot of young people have migrated to places like discord or group chats lately. A tight knit circle of friends without a "feed" run by algos. I'm excited if this holds true!

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> we might lose the social networks altogether. Don't tempt me with a better world.

I honestly think that's the way things are going. People are tired of AI generated junk and doom scrolling. I notice a lot of young people have migrated to places like discord or group chats lately. A tight knit circle of friends without a "feed" run by algos. I'm excited if this holds true!

That's what forums used to be, but running them is more a chore than simply establishing a closed group somewhere.

Re: The dark side of account bans

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I don't know about the country you live in, but the usual 100% bullet-proof method to make your message seen by the living human being is to send a paper snail mail.

You won't necessary receive the answers for your questions, but you'll get back your account.

If the simple message did not help, you file a pre-trial claim and send it to them.

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> This "we're too modern and digital to get out heads out of our asses" attitude towards adopting "cool technology" with complete disregard for an analog Plan B gets to my nerves. All restaurants have an "analog plan B", it's called walking in and asking for a menu. These are tiny businesses run by people who love food, not tech. It really is asking too much to expect them to work at and understand the ideas behind d…

> All restaurants have an "analog plan B", it's called walking in and asking for a menu At least every second month I walk out of a new restaurant I’ve discovered because they don’t even care to have it. Employees treat you like it’s your fault that you can’t see the prices behind a Meta auth wall. They won’t even offer to read it out to you or show in a device of their own. Nowadays, if I see a triangle-shaped cardb…

I've never been to a restaurant without backup menus.

Even if they have QR codes, they have some paper menus or tablets.

And it's not even for people without devices or logins -- it's because phone batteries run out and they run out all the time. Restaurants don't generally make a lot of profit, and they need every customer they can get.

Do you bother to ask? Or do you just assume?

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