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Re: RIP Skype

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Post by johnpdoe124 »

Spivak wrote: post #34
FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #20

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Everyone I know who uses Teams does not like it. Is that selection bias based on my personal network of technically savvy peers and professionals, or is it founded in a broader experience? More importantly, does Microsoft really believe this is a winning product? Are they that out of touch with their customer base?

Teams as a Zoom competitor is fine. It works perfectly well as video calling / conferencing software. Teams as a Slack competitor is abysmal. Absolutely unusable for anything other than the most basic communication needs.

I haven't used Zoom extensively, so I cannot comment on its performance. I just had a meeting this morning on Teams using video, and my MBP battery went from 95% to 49% in about 25 minutes (it normally lasts for about 5-6 hours under normal workflow). That was after I had to restart Teams the first time I picked up the call, because it hung and didn't display the conference window.

I find Teams performance atrocious for modern standards. It's not great on W10, but on my Mac is horrible. The conversation buffer is abysmal, having to refresh a million times if you need to scroll up in the conversation history.

Most of my peers use windows, and have constant crashes, incorrectly identified input devices like mics and cameras, sluggish performance when sharing screens, etc...

Just a data point.

Re: RIP Skype

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Post by wltr »

tim333 wrote: post #57

Skype out was useful. I had an account with auto top up from my card for years. I assumed they'd refund the unused credit when they closed but it seems they have decided to keep it which I feel is unsporting. About 15 euro so it won't break the bank but there should still be a general principle not to steal your clients funds.

Hey, it’s Microsoft, why would you expect otherwise?

Re: RIP Skype

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Post by pchangr »

nunez wrote: post #75
_diyar wrote: post #53

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Accidental Tech Podcast episode 581 [1] had a great conversation about the reason why Teams is winning: Microsoft was using their dominant position in office applications to win market share. Specifically, they would offer Teams for free in a bundle with Office (which basically every company buys anyway). Every manager could strike Slack from their expenses, replace it with Teams and claim great success. Microsoft ha…

This was obvious, at least to me. MSFT has always offered Teams as a "free" add-on to O365 licenses. Google does the same with Meet and Workspace licenses. It's a real shame, given that Zoom is leagues better than both solutions. But "free" is free :(

Zoom? Better? Maybe to have a videocall.. but add a couple hundred users to a call .. and you start hitting limits. Granted, those are not very common but I think the killer feature of slack and teams is discoverable channels. Dont get me wrong Teams UX and performance is terrible in MacOS the whole experience is like taking a school bus to a freeway.. but feature-wise is very complete IMHO and it can handle 500+ user video calls with no problem.

Re: RIP Skype

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Post by geoka9 »

FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #20
internet_points wrote: post #5

Let's hope Teams is next in line

Everyone I know who uses Teams does not like it. Is that selection bias based on my personal network of technically savvy peers and professionals, or is it founded in a broader experience? More importantly, does Microsoft really believe this is a winning product? Are they that out of touch with their customer base?

> Are they that out of touch with their customer base?

When did they care? Their business model is based on having their software forced upon users by clueless management and/or hardware vendors.

Re: RIP Skype

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Post by aa-jv »

mid-kid wrote: post #45
aa-jv wrote: post #42

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What about it? Nobody is going to buy it for billions of dollars, as has happened to Skype. You can still do surveillance capitalism - its just not as valuable as it used to be ..

What are you talking about? Technology is as widespread as ever and chances to use AI for more effective surveillance and manipulation are through the roof.

We are in the mid-stages of all of this, now. Skype was at the forefront.

Surveillance capitalism today doesn't produce the same returns now that it did in 2005/7 ... there are a lot more players and a lot more work to be done to become a viable operation.

Besides which, the weaponisation of such surveillance networks is out in the open and there is a lot more resistance - for example, in Europe - to the idea of having this form of integration into the telecommunication networks of states.

Re: RIP Skype

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Post by PicassoCTs »

cranberryturkey wrote: post #66
PicassoCTs wrote: post #10

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Its funny in a way, all that money, but because the paradigm of the organization has to be enforced into the tech, those fingers can not hold this chalice.

when i interviewed there, the VP of Engineer told me skype used to be a bittorrent client, but then they pivoted, hired a ton of video compression engineers and create Skype. video calling using the same p2p technology as bittorrent

Well now that the reason for acquisition is gone (NSA wants centralized communication and europe wants protection from the US) - could the same engineers build and sell the same software under a new name - Epyks for example?
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