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getting the interview is the hard part and the reason you need to market yourself
Add it to the cover letter
Unfortunately that is one of those things, everyone has to write, and almost no one reads.
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
The question was "what is the best way to market yourself?" and your recommendation is to keep quiet and do less marketing. If that has worked for you, that's amazing! But it seems really counter-intuitive to me.
No he's saying if you are a generalist you shouldn't try to market yourself as that. Usually employers are looking for specialists that are perfectly moulded to the one exact task they need at that very moment. It's misguided of course, but that's what they think they want and if you say "I've done all sorts of things and I'm good at all of them" they'll hear "I don't have much experience with anything" and discount…
Yes the usual T shape kind of approach.
Most HR hiring managers, and headhunters alike, have a real hard problem trying to see the point of generalists.
They want the easy way out, what to focus on.
As I usual say I tend to do whatever, so is the life of agencies, however when applying for positions sell the skills relevant for the position.
Not e.g. "I can do .NET and Java", rather "I can do .NET, proud of X, Y and Z projects in .NET, and by the way, I may do Java as well if needed, there was this project...", something like this.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Before they were multiple people they were one person. A single person can in fact write a program for a computer.
Sure, some C code, some html, a table here, a colspan there, and you can have a website made by a single person... if we want a website to look like it was made on an 1980s computer by a single person.
On the 1990s maybe, on the 1980s hardly. :)
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think there's a bit of an "eternal September" where people are promoted to management, asked to hire a bunch of people for some niche role, and blog about their inability to hire good people. Hate to break it to the author, but there are plenty of people who can write a driver, bootloader, distributed systems, PAXOS, etc. but there's NO JOBS DOING THAT so they all work for making . The author mentions their grand s…
Also the usual botched hiring process, where even if one has the knwoledge, just because it wasn't what one was doing the last five years, it doesn't count, even if one has portfolio from side projects to show. Or the dumb leetcode stuff because "we are going to be cool like Google over here". So many gravitate to companies with more sensible hiring practices, and that is how a company loses candidates, if it is one…
> Also the usual botched hiring process, where even if one has the knwoledge, just because it wasn't what one was doing the last five years, it doesn't count, even if one has portfolio from side projects to show.
So many times this. It doesn't even have to be five years to disqualify so many applicants these days. If you aren't working on it currently, there's already so much bias against you in the hiring process at large (e.g. the "I don't consider anyone that isn't currently employed" mantra that pops back up now and then).
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#86As an aside, TFA says: We’re talking about skills that span kernel-level programming, hardware quirks, low-level debugging, distributed systems, security, orchestration logic, even the capability to work with the UI/UX team... and the ability to explain all that without scaring interns. You can’t just hire for that. You have to grow it. Nurture it. Beg for it. Or in some cases, resurrect it. If you are that person, w…
I think there's a bit of an "eternal September" where people are promoted to management, asked to hire a bunch of people for some niche role, and blog about their inability to hire good people. Hate to break it to the author, but there are plenty of people who can write a driver, bootloader, distributed systems, PAXOS, etc. but there's NO JOBS DOING THAT so they all work for making . The author mentions their grand s…
Right now it feels like generic SAAS companies aren’t hiring either.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
This doesn’t follow. Below some level of skill and experience they can contribute negative value to the project. Companies need a minimum level of experience just to make the role pay for itself. Does the high skill standard for surgeons mean the market for surgeons is saturated?
If you are not needing to consider having someone who does not meet a certain skill standard to perform surgery on you, then, yes, it would seem that the surgeon market is saturated as the parent describes it.
It depends on the time scale you are looking at it with. It looks saturated short-term, but it surely is not long term. The problem will only show up once your surgeons start retiring.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are not needing to consider having someone who does not meet a certain skill standard to perform surgery on you, then, yes, it would seem that the surgeon market is saturated as the parent describes it.
It depends on the time scale you are looking at it with. It looks saturated short-term, but it surely is not long term. The problem will only show up once your surgeons start retiring.
Instantaneous time is the only time scale that makes sense with respect to the topic at hand.
Sure, it is possible for the market to desaturate at some point as key people leave. But at that point, assuming suitable, per the earlier comment, replacements don't fill the void, the market will either come to accept lesser skilled people or it will come to accept fewer surgeries, returning to equilibrium. Not exactly magic.
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#89As an aside, TFA says: We’re talking about skills that span kernel-level programming, hardware quirks, low-level debugging, distributed systems, security, orchestration logic, even the capability to work with the UI/UX team... and the ability to explain all that without scaring interns. You can’t just hire for that. You have to grow it. Nurture it. Beg for it. Or in some cases, resurrect it. If you are that person, w…
>because I'm at a FAANG trying to pay my mortgage.
Let's rephrase that:
I'm at a company with top of the line talent in many different domains and I prefer the compensation of this company over networking to find someone who knows the hiring manager of a team like this.
You have the easy way into this. For people without this networking, the best advice is to make them come to you. You gotta share that knowledge out there and get regards in various communities online if you can't stand out in a batch of resumes (and no one these days can, for reasons entirely the fault of HR and ATS). Do that and your newfound network will connect you.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think there's a bit of an "eternal September" where people are promoted to management, asked to hire a bunch of people for some niche role, and blog about their inability to hire good people. Hate to break it to the author, but there are plenty of people who can write a driver, bootloader, distributed systems, PAXOS, etc. but there's NO JOBS DOING THAT so they all work for making . The author mentions their grand s…
This! My first job out of university was working on an embedded Java runtime, with a group of peers from said university. Which sounds similar to what Virtualise.sh is doing. Now, 20 years later? Tech lead on a Typescript/Flutter/AWS internal system. In some ways I'd be excited to write container orchestration logic, or hack on a hypervisor. There's precious little of that work available, especially so in a small cou…
cheap, moldable, and not distracted by families will always be a strong combination for niches you can't really learn otherwise. Not a lot of people will take a "downgrade" in their career to work on some passionate or cutting edge tech.