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I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

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Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

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If you don't wanna pay $74 for CrossOver, there's also Whisky which impressed me and I've had great success with. It's an open source Wine wrapper for macOS https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky EDIT: it seems that at some point in the past month the author stated whisky is no longer maintained!

I wonder how this compares to porting kit and wineskin. That's what I've been using for Windows gaming on Mac and it's been running well for me on my m3 air- this is the first time I've ever heard of crossover.

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

#82
post #4

tl;dr: you can run windows games with crossover, requires extra manual configuration to make performance better, has input lag and you can get 1080p at medium. None of that sounds amazing. If you want to play these games without a windows machine, a steam deck seems a much better option.

And despite all these flaws, the game will somehow get a 5 star “Runs great” rating.

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

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post #6

I recently finished the latest iteration of a gaming PC and haven’t even bothered installing windows on it. Not Mac but it seems that Linux gaming is also basically Windows gaming at this point. It could probably play games on Ultra vs High if I used Windows but ads in the menu bar is a bridge too far for me.

Proton (custom WINE by valve) is so good now thanks to Vulkan, you generally only lose about 5% performance compared to Windows, with a 10% difference in rare cases.

It's very easy to be a hardcore gamer on Linux now, outside of a handful of online games that gave yet to flip the switch to let their anti-cheat run on Linux.

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

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post #4

tl;dr: you can run windows games with crossover, requires extra manual configuration to make performance better, has input lag and you can get 1080p at medium. None of that sounds amazing. If you want to play these games without a windows machine, a steam deck seems a much better option.

I run most things on linux, no game is important enough for me to switch back to windows or give them another dime

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

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I do my work on a mac because I don't like the nuisance of trying to do it on windows. There is always some wonkiness that I don't even bother to remember the details of, because the solution is just to do it on mac. I rather play games on windows because I don't like the nuisance of trying to do it on mac. There is always some wonkiness that I don't even bother to remember the details of, because the solution is jus…

counterpoint as a dev who works with k8s and wants a linux env:. I was told to get a mac when I joined and I wish I hadnt. WSL and vscode remote ssh make windows better for linux dev. the alternative is getting a parallels license. I mainly use vscode to remote to linux machines now and ignore my mac and wish it didn't exist. also as a longtime windows user i think the windows desktop is just better. window management, multimonitor, hell even launching apps is slow as shit on my mac m1 compared to my windows pc.

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

#87

I do my work on a mac because I don't like the nuisance of trying to do it on windows. There is always some wonkiness that I don't even bother to remember the details of, because the solution is just to do it on mac. I rather play games on windows because I don't like the nuisance of trying to do it on mac. There is always some wonkiness that I don't even bother to remember the details of, because the solution is jus…

counterpoint as a dev who works with k8s and wants a linux env:. I was told to get a mac when I joined and I wish I hadnt. WSL and vscode remote ssh make windows better for linux dev. the alternative is getting a parallels license. I mainly use vscode to remote to linux machines now and ignore my mac and wish it didn't exist. also as a longtime windows user i think the windows desktop is just better. window managemen…

bottom line: I dont know what dev workflows are better on mac, but if its linux, windows is now more linuxy than mac. imo.

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

#88

I do my work on a mac because I don't like the nuisance of trying to do it on windows. There is always some wonkiness that I don't even bother to remember the details of, because the solution is just to do it on mac. I rather play games on windows because I don't like the nuisance of trying to do it on mac. There is always some wonkiness that I don't even bother to remember the details of, because the solution is jus…

Steam, on Linux and Steam on Windows are very similar experiences. Is it much worse on the Mac?

It's a similar experience, but the library of natively supported games is fairly small, and ports are often poor quality - especially older games that haven't been updated in a long time and are broken in various ways on newer Mac versions. The most common problem I run into is the lack of high-DPI support, which means that you can't run the game at full 4K even if your display supports it.

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

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post #6

I recently finished the latest iteration of a gaming PC and haven’t even bothered installing windows on it. Not Mac but it seems that Linux gaming is also basically Windows gaming at this point. It could probably play games on Ultra vs High if I used Windows but ads in the menu bar is a bridge too far for me.

My gaming box (which I stream PC and retro games from to a handheld and the TV) is a Ryzen 7 APU running Bazzite. I have zero plans for ever running Steam on Windows ever again.

Re: I tried Windows gaming on a Mac

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post #53

Does Mac not do Steam gaming the same way? In Linux I just press install and it works with my AMD card. I haven't pressed any other buttons. Fedora 42

Steam works, but most games can't be bothered to provide macOS builds, and some that do are 32 bit and thus cannot be run (macOS only supports 64 bit executables nowadays).

Yes, but I am not running games for Linux. I play mostly games that are built for Windows, but they just launch in Linux because Valve made Proton.

I don't know much about it because I only use x86 on my workstations, but I believe it even can work across architecture because the Pi guys have done that too.

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