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Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

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I don't think it is that. I work for an org with close ties to arXiv, and just like us they are getting a lot more demand due to AI crawling. As a primary source of information there is a lot of traffic. They do have technical issues from time to time due to this demand, and I think their stability is just due to the exceptional amount of effort they take to keep it going. They are also getting more submissions and i…

Sound like all they needed was a CDN if the problem is AI crawlers. Adding auto-scaling compute just increases costs faster.

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Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

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Just because you are hosting at a company doesn’t mean they are “controlling” it.

Can't they stop providing services at a whim? Can't they do whatever with the data?

Yes to the first, but other platforms that run k8s exist.

No to the second, unless they've come to some sure of agreement with Cornell that lets them.

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it is that. I work for an org with close ties to arXiv, and just like us they are getting a lot more demand due to AI crawling. As a primary source of information there is a lot of traffic. They do have technical issues from time to time due to this demand, and I think their stability is just due to the exceptional amount of effort they take to keep it going. They are also getting more submissions and i…

Sound like all they needed was a CDN if the problem is AI crawlers. Adding auto-scaling compute just increases costs faster.

they already use fastly.

https://blog.arxiv.org/2023/12/18/faster-arxiv-with-fastly/

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

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I think this is more likely a move to prevent Cornell funding from getting tied up with dictations about what gets published. But in all likelihood someone was probably just like "we're tired of doing ops on 2 decades old stacks"

It sounds like they are just using GCP. It doesn't really change that.

Google cloud can easily move the the instance to a region that is not science/free speech hostile

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

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post #82

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Can't they stop providing services at a whim? Can't they do whatever with the data?

Yes to the first, but other platforms that run k8s exist. No to the second, unless they've come to some sure of agreement with Cornell that lets them.

The first is already awful. Without notice?

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#87

Fantastic. Now countries like Iran are going to be blocked. Internet is not a public network anymore It is owned by mostly American cooperation and they will decide what content to show and which group of people can access it.

Is it not ideal to block Iran?

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

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Sound like all they needed was a CDN if the problem is AI crawlers. Adding auto-scaling compute just increases costs faster.

CDN is one part of strategy to deal with load. But it is not the only solution unless your site is exclusively static content. Their search, APIs, submission pipelines, duplicate detectors and a lot of other things are not going to be powered by CDNs.

But, under the assumption that the problem are indeed AI crawlers, of the things you listed only the search would be under increased load.
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