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JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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IMO I much prefer to have my dev tools be completely FOSS so I'm not building my career on skills that are tied to a proprietary sw provider.

Me too, though I think it's a personal preference rather than an economically rational decision.

> rather than an economically rational decision

Depends on the time horizon

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

#82

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I guarantee your students are going to learn how to delete the .noai file

Of course. As I tell them: I am a good teacher and my job is to teach you how to program computers well. It is possible to cheat and get a good grade in this class. If I catch you, I will report you to the university. But I'm not going to work hard to catch people, that's not my job: my job is to teach. You should learn. My concern isn't for students who are cheaters, there isn't much I can do about them. Rather it i…

Tons of cheaters existed pre-ai too. They'll always exist, whether they use ai or just share copy pasted code from students who attended the semester before. Probably half of my graduating class couldn't program because they cheated their way through.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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You're still stuck paying for the garbage regardless, and funding an organization that thinks this is an acceptable business direction.

I was already a satisfied paying customer. I don't need that new stuff but I understand they have to go where the market goes if they want to stay relevant vs competitors (Microsoft VSCode/Github/Copilot) in the eyes of prospective customers who judge products using comparative feature grids. If you don't want to use an IDE or pay for your tools that's fine. You don't have to look for reasons to hate on it. No one ca…

> I don't need that new stuff but I understand they have to go where the market goes if they want to stay relevant vs competitors

Looking at the people racing to jump off the cliff and saying "let's maybe consider not doing that" can be an competitive advantage, see https://procreate.com/ai

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course. As I tell them: I am a good teacher and my job is to teach you how to program computers well. It is possible to cheat and get a good grade in this class. If I catch you, I will report you to the university. But I'm not going to work hard to catch people, that's not my job: my job is to teach. You should learn. My concern isn't for students who are cheaters, there isn't much I can do about them. Rather it i…

Tons of cheaters existed pre-ai too. They'll always exist, whether they use ai or just share copy pasted code from students who attended the semester before. Probably half of my graduating class couldn't program because they cheated their way through.

Yep.

Sin is its own punishment.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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post #28
post #7

> On top of all that, the All Products Pack and dotUltimate subscriptions will now come with AI Pro included. Well, colour me surprised. I've used JetBrains as an an example of a pretty decent company in the past (e.g. the way they remind you your subscription is up for renewal a couple of months in advance, so you have all the time in the world to unsub if you like), but I wasn't expecting them to just add this to t…

you can read this as no-one was buying the addon they'll eat the cost for a year or two, then bump up the subscription price to pay for it

I did;) unsubscribed every second month and resubscribed to see if it got better. now included, nice!

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course. As I tell them: I am a good teacher and my job is to teach you how to program computers well. It is possible to cheat and get a good grade in this class. If I catch you, I will report you to the university. But I'm not going to work hard to catch people, that's not my job: my job is to teach. You should learn. My concern isn't for students who are cheaters, there isn't much I can do about them. Rather it i…

How many students rely on AI, is that number really going up? My son is 14 and knows about AI (I'm a researcher in the space, so I've been mentioning advances in it for years). He seems to code with some of his peers, and it seems like normal to me (python scripts, HTML, js type stuff written the old fasioned way [written by hand or copy pasting into a notebook.exe equivalent :P]). I try to be super honest with him,…

Yes, it is going up. In my classes the problem is that AI is just there in VSCode or IntelliJ, and they start using it almost by accident. That is what I want to avoid.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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post #55
post #33

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>The business modelling behind it must be quite intense, I hope this doesn't blow up in JetBrains' face Historically... this tends to work out. Reminds me of Gmail initially allowing massive inbox. YouTube doing free hosting. All the various untethered LAMP hosting... If necessary they'll add an anti-abuse policy or whatnot to mitigate the heavy users. The sophisticated modeling is basically "just get going" with a g…

> Historically... this tends to work out. Reminds me of Gmail initially allowing massive inbox. YouTube doing free hosting. All the various untethered LAMP hosting... One difference I see: storage capacity and compute performance aren't increasing like they had in the past, so companies can't rely on these costs to dramatically drop in the future to offset bleeding cash initially to gain market share.

Sure. I agree that usage/demand is likely to outgrow compute performance.

But.. a lot of the other dynamics that make this game winnable still stand. Maybe they will need to go with a meter eventually or some other pricing structure... but it will work out.

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