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Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#81

Post by Aeolun »

trhway wrote: post #79
i_hate_moomins wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Light hearted? Suitable for small children? Are you kidding me. I'm in my mid-30's and still remember nightmares those stupid series gave me when I was in kindergarten. It was X-Files-tier scary ("The X Files" being other show aired by polish TV around same time), masquarading behind cute animations. How can anyone in their right mind call the episode where the Moomintroll swaps bodies with Stinky lighthearted and po…

i wonder what you'd think about Brothers Grimm's tales :) And in general children folk tales in many countries do contain strong violence, cruelty, torture, etc. if you'd focus on those details.

It’s amazing what you get if you read the originals.

Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#82

Post by klntsky »

i_hate_moomins wrote: post #76
TeMPOraL wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been listening to Moomin audiobooks and reading some of the books to my wife in recent years, and I started to spot some of the more adult/darker subtext in it (I'm still processing the one where the Moominpappa makes the entire family move to a lighthouse, and Moominmamma is desperately trying to cope with growing depression). Still, I have an answer for the author's conundrum, that's accurate for a significant…

Light hearted? Suitable for small children? Are you kidding me. I'm in my mid-30's and still remember nightmares those stupid series gave me when I was in kindergarten. It was X-Files-tier scary ("The X Files" being other show aired by polish TV around same time), masquarading behind cute animations. How can anyone in their right mind call the episode where the Moomintroll swaps bodies with Stinky lighthearted and po…

It's funny that you made a throwaway just to post an opinion on a book for children on this site

Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#83

Post by Tempat »

klntsky wrote: post #82
i_hate_moomins wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Light hearted? Suitable for small children? Are you kidding me. I'm in my mid-30's and still remember nightmares those stupid series gave me when I was in kindergarten. It was X-Files-tier scary ("The X Files" being other show aired by polish TV around same time), masquarading behind cute animations. How can anyone in their right mind call the episode where the Moomintroll swaps bodies with Stinky lighthearted and po…

It's funny that you made a throwaway just to post an opinion on a book for children on this site

They’re speaking specifically about the TV series.

Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#84

Post by [deleted] »

raptorraver wrote: post #31

Don't have time to read through the whole article. But just wanted to point out that there are also Moomin cartoons which have really politically uncorrect stories: like Moomins travelling to spain, trying to buy opium but eating some weird drugs instead and then staring for sea for a week and missing their fligth back.

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Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#86

Post by hjgjhyuhy »

i_hate_moomins wrote: post #76
TeMPOraL wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been listening to Moomin audiobooks and reading some of the books to my wife in recent years, and I started to spot some of the more adult/darker subtext in it (I'm still processing the one where the Moominpappa makes the entire family move to a lighthouse, and Moominmamma is desperately trying to cope with growing depression). Still, I have an answer for the author's conundrum, that's accurate for a significant…

Light hearted? Suitable for small children? Are you kidding me. I'm in my mid-30's and still remember nightmares those stupid series gave me when I was in kindergarten. It was X-Files-tier scary ("The X Files" being other show aired by polish TV around same time), masquarading behind cute animations. How can anyone in their right mind call the episode where the Moomintroll swaps bodies with Stinky lighthearted and po…

What you describe is the very reason I let my children watch moomins. Not everything needs to be bland and boring like today’s children’s shows. World is not like that.

Over here im Finland me and every other 90’s kids watched these shows, and mostly turned our fine. There’s so much nostalgia around it all.

Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#87

Post by adrianN »

trhway wrote: post #79
i_hate_moomins wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Light hearted? Suitable for small children? Are you kidding me. I'm in my mid-30's and still remember nightmares those stupid series gave me when I was in kindergarten. It was X-Files-tier scary ("The X Files" being other show aired by polish TV around same time), masquarading behind cute animations. How can anyone in their right mind call the episode where the Moomintroll swaps bodies with Stinky lighthearted and po…

i wonder what you'd think about Brothers Grimm's tales :) And in general children folk tales in many countries do contain strong violence, cruelty, torture, etc. if you'd focus on those details.

A lot of those stories try to teach children that going alone into the woods is a very bad idea. You have to read them in the historic context; don’t think they’re particularly suitable for modern children.

Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#88

Post by [deleted] »

i_hate_moomins wrote: post #76
TeMPOraL wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been listening to Moomin audiobooks and reading some of the books to my wife in recent years, and I started to spot some of the more adult/darker subtext in it (I'm still processing the one where the Moominpappa makes the entire family move to a lighthouse, and Moominmamma is desperately trying to cope with growing depression). Still, I have an answer for the author's conundrum, that's accurate for a significant…

Light hearted? Suitable for small children? Are you kidding me. I'm in my mid-30's and still remember nightmares those stupid series gave me when I was in kindergarten. It was X-Files-tier scary ("The X Files" being other show aired by polish TV around same time), masquarading behind cute animations. How can anyone in their right mind call the episode where the Moomintroll swaps bodies with Stinky lighthearted and po…

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Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#89

Post by krige »

thih9 wrote: post #74
TeMPOraL wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been listening to Moomin audiobooks and reading some of the books to my wife in recent years, and I started to spot some of the more adult/darker subtext in it (I'm still processing the one where the Moominpappa makes the entire family move to a lighthouse, and Moominmamma is desperately trying to cope with growing depression). Still, I have an answer for the author's conundrum, that's accurate for a significant…

> It was cute, it was happy Many episodes had darker undertones as well, especially those with the Groke[1] or hattifatteners. Tvtropes has a list[2]. > The Groke was so horrifying in fact, that in Poland it caused a nation-wide fear in almost all children, some of which were even left traumatised for years, leading to some parents forbidding their children from watching Moomins, and some using the Groke as a Bogeyma…

This is extremely exaggerated. The Groke is more of a meme here than some sort of night terror. Sure it had an impact and was memorable but there was no wave of traumatized kids spawned by it.

Re: The dark side of the Moomins

#90

Post by npodbielski »

i_hate_moomins wrote: post #76
TeMPOraL wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been listening to Moomin audiobooks and reading some of the books to my wife in recent years, and I started to spot some of the more adult/darker subtext in it (I'm still processing the one where the Moominpappa makes the entire family move to a lighthouse, and Moominmamma is desperately trying to cope with growing depression). Still, I have an answer for the author's conundrum, that's accurate for a significant…

Light hearted? Suitable for small children? Are you kidding me. I'm in my mid-30's and still remember nightmares those stupid series gave me when I was in kindergarten. It was X-Files-tier scary ("The X Files" being other show aired by polish TV around same time), masquarading behind cute animations. How can anyone in their right mind call the episode where the Moomintroll swaps bodies with Stinky lighthearted and po…

You created another account just to write how you hate moomins? Dude chill out.

Anyway, the fact that you did that and still remembering it after all those years proves how extra ordinary this work was.

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