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Tailscale has raised $160M

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Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by syntaxing »

burningion wrote: post #59
syntaxing wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic but rerun.io is really cool. Never heard of it until I saw your project. Do you know if it does "replay" kinda like rosplay?

Yes, rerun does replay, that was my main use case when prototyping. They've since raised more funding recently, and have larger use cases in mind for robotics: https://rerun.io/blog/physical-ai-data I've spoken with members of the team, and they're all great. Wouldn't hesitate to use the product / work with them anywhere.

I can't seem to find the replay function. As in replaying the sensor data as if it was "live". Would you happen to have a link to this feature?

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by codethief »

srameshc wrote: post #17

I don't probably use Tailscale to it's full potential but I love this tool. We have our small servers at our offices across the world and it has give us so much flexibility to access some of the files via shared drives or try out installing / testing stuff. Me and my wife also drop each other pictures of our kids using tailscale now.

> Me and my wife also drop each other pictures of our kids using tailscale now.

What application are you using for that (on top of Tailscale, that is)?

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by scarface_74 »

eddieroger wrote: post #60
aqfamnzc wrote: post #46

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> It’s a bit like saying Dropbox is just a GUI on top of TLS. Well, it is. After all, for a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially...

It'll be a sad day when this reference is posted and understood for the last time.

How many people on HN today would get the structure - “less $x than $y. No $z. Lame”?

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by radlad »

tptacek wrote: post #71
eddieroger wrote: post #60

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It'll be a sad day when this reference is posted and understood for the last time.

No it won't. The reference is universally misunderstood. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

I think the parent commenter used "understood" to mean "recognized."

That said, I don't really understand the supposed misunderstanding you point out. It seems that dang argues that "the exchange was pleasant and successful." I've never seen someone claim otherwise.

Rather, I've seen it used as an example of how technical users can fail to recognize the complexity inherent in their workflows, and therefore may also fail to see the real-world business value in creating (and selling) simpler interfaces. See also a SMOP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_matter_of_programming

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by peterlk »

vvpan wrote: post #73
tmpz22 wrote: post #37

If they had taken just say $40 million would they be able to sustain their project for the foreseeable future and perhaps not yield as much future product direction and equity? I honestly don't know how this big dealmaking works but it strikes me that when you take out this big of an obligation that the obligation has a gravity that may drag you in a direction you (or consumers) do not want to go. Love Tailscale as a…

One of the main problems with raising too much is that you stop caring about product-market fit and can go on tangents that do not make you competitive. This is quiet common afaik.

Yes; you will burn through all the capital you raise in ~18 months. It is _extremely_ difficult to efficiently allocate large raises (100M+) in 18 months. In fact, I’m developing a pet thesis that no single human or business can efficiently allocate more than $100M. This would imply that any time a single raise is more than 100M, the investors always would have had a better return by splitting it into chunks of 100M or less. It’s not a _good_ thesis yet, just one I’m performing thought experiments with

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by nickthegreek »

evanjrowley wrote: post #48
mrbonner wrote: post #23

Does anybody encounter issues with DNS after installing tailscale with it's MagicDNS enabled? It drives me nuts because my entire network just stops working. I removed tailscale but still won't be able to connect to my Ubuntu server.

Sometimes I have issues like this. It's related to my ISP not supporting IPv6. I don't have time to explain this in detail, but at least that's one angle of it that you might want to explore further.

Same. When my cell has an ip6 ip, I can’t get dns to resolve on my systems at home. I can still access everything by ip4 ip though. I haven’t had time to find a solution yet. I’m still trying to figure out if it’s nginx, pi-hole, router, or Tailscale config related… probably a combination.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by _lvbh »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #19
braginini wrote: post #3

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Try netbird which is an open-source alternative to free yourself from worries xD https://github.com/netbirdio/netbird

I've always been on the outside looking in, so I've never used Tailscale or its open-source brethren. Would this service be comparable to Headscale[0]? [0] https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

Headscale is server only. Netbird is the whole stack (basically does the same thing but completely different software/implementation)

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by hobofan »

sshine wrote: post #29
kube-system wrote: post #13

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Tailscale is a software company founded in 2019 that raised their series A in 2020, not a grassroots community project

so either you do it out of the goodness of your heart, or you maximize shareholder value at no expense I'd sell out at $160M, too. I'm happy for them, and sad for everyone else.

As GP said, they have raised money before. So why are you now disappointed and think they "are selling out", when nothing has changed, and Tailscale has been a clear-cut for-profit startup from the start?

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by freeone3000 »

peterlk wrote: post #85
vvpan wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the main problems with raising too much is that you stop caring about product-market fit and can go on tangents that do not make you competitive. This is quiet common afaik.

Yes; you will burn through all the capital you raise in ~18 months. It is _extremely_ difficult to efficiently allocate large raises (100M+) in 18 months. In fact, I’m developing a pet thesis that no single human or business can efficiently allocate more than $100M. This would imply that any time a single raise is more than 100M, the investors always would have had a better return by splitting it into chunks of 100M…

Why would you not just have the same amount of income, but spend less money?

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Post by codethief »

Everyone is commenting on the HN headline, no one on the actual post:

> Building the New Internet

(Insert mandatory reference to Silicon Valley here :))

> We think there’s a better way forward. We're calling it identity-first networking.

I would love to see this. Every day I have to stare at YAML files with IP addresses in them is a day I will never get back. I wish cjdns[0] had succeeded already but oh well, now I hope the Tailscale guys will!

[0]: https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/

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