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Re: The Website Hacker News Is Afraid to Discuss

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As someone who's been reading Daring Fireball since 2004 and considers themselves an Apple fan, I think the algorithm is working exactly as intended if it's designed to limit intellectually dishonest content. Gruber has built a career on a predictable pattern: vociferously defend Apple's every decision (even contradicting his own previous positions when Apple changes course), construct elaborate post-rationalizations…

https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_th... Your hypothesis is falsified.

Can you be more specific? Because this article was mentioned in the comment.

Re: The Website Hacker News Is Afraid to Discuss

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There are many "why is this flagged comments" even by some old users who have been here a long time.

If you search or view dang's comments you can see multiple explanations on why and how posts are flagged.

Many people will flag if they think a submission will cause flame. And many people will flag if they see most comments are not constructive and are just complaining about comments. It doesn't make interesting reading. For what it's worth I came here via new comments and the submission was already flagged, so this is for whoever is left!

Check out the usual guidelines:

"Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." and remember that people like interesting things. Keep this a good interesting place.

Additionally there seems to be an increasing paranoid-like, conspiratorial, us vs them group mentality and accusation of brigading and censorship. This type of thinking are thought terminations and can morally hurt oneself. They don't encourage people to think of others as other people like themselves but encourages people to see more enemies around them and leads to dead end conclusions and prejudice.

Re: The Website Hacker News Is Afraid to Discuss

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For posterity, here's a spreadsheet of all Daring Fireball submissions to HN, sorted chronologically: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A7ljmWbHtFsB4VRJ1Q0d... From first glance there's still some decent traffic on Daring Fireball submissions, even inside the times Gruber asserts deadweighting.

How then do you explain DF being #3 from 2007-2021 and #72 from 2021-2025? It’s clearly not blacklisted, but clearly is shitlisted, no?

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Re: The Website Hacker News Is Afraid to Discuss

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I doubt you intended it, but your comment actually exemplifies why a lot of his articles likely get flagged and downranked. The comment is contentious, and also asserts that it is per se impossible for someone to disagree with the EU's stance on interoperability in good faith or that there may be legit downsides. Then you deliver an extended personal attack for some reason. And one that really doesn't seem supported…

>The comment is contentious, and also asserts that it is per se impossible for someone to disagree with the EU's stance on interoperability in good faith

Or qiestion moon landing in good faith

Re: The Website Hacker News Is Afraid to Discuss

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It’s not just Gruber. As both a medium-high HN karma person and a Gruber fan I can say there is a definite reduction in the overall quality of discourse around Apple news versus general topics on HN. Much more knee jerk reactions. I theorize this is due to the overall startup versus incumbents focus as well as the hacker ethos of being opposed to more buttoned up closed systems meant for the general public. Like for…

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Re: The Website Hacker News Is Afraid to Discuss

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I doubt you intended it, but your comment actually exemplifies why a lot of his articles likely get flagged and downranked. The comment is contentious, and also asserts that it is per se impossible for someone to disagree with the EU's stance on interoperability in good faith or that there may be legit downsides. Then you deliver an extended personal attack for some reason. And one that really doesn't seem supported…

> it is per se impossible for someone to disagree with the EU's stance on interoperability in good faith or that there may be legit downsides.

Oh, you can definitely disagree. The problem is in good faith which Gruber shows none of. To the point of going from "why the hell would you want to change your Messages default app" to "oh, it absolutely makes sense to chaneg the messages default app but it makes no sense to change Photos, EU is bad" in a blink of an eye.

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