I've seen that one before. Next thing you know licenses start changing, features locked out and completely removed and development slowly starts creeping towards full proprietary prison. Time to throw some money at Jolla and Sailfish OS and migrate I suppose.
Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
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Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
What apps? I think only android auto requires it. All the rest works just fine with occasional glitches. Of course that most probably greatly depends of what kind of apps you are using but usually microG is just enough.
Many banking apps will outright refuse to run on rooted devices, much less google-free forks. There are ways around that but those ways are unreliable and could break at any given time -- I am not risking losing the ability to pay for things online just for the sake of running an android fork. (in my country, all the banks switched to requiring 2FA from their app if you make online purchases with your visa or masterc…
No Email or TOTP? (No, I am not suggesting sms)
In my country one bank had a 2fa app. Then they backtracked on security, but kept policy: they included the 2fa in the regular bank app. Now you don't have to use 2fa if you are using the bank app, because the bank app generates its own authorization, in the same device (app) without user interaction!
Fake admiration off. We also don't have to use any 2fa when we access banking through the website. (works on FF on Android)
Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#83This headline really is misleading. The source will still be released, it just means that the work leading up to a release will be in private. IMO, there's nothing wrong with that, since it's likely that a lot of the intermediate com mediates are likely just noise.
Additionally, that's already the case for much of the Android projects. The remaining projects that developed directly in AOSP will develop on the internal branch like the rest.
Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#84Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#85This headline really is misleading. The source will still be released, it just means that the work leading up to a release will be in private. IMO, there's nothing wrong with that, since it's likely that a lot of the intermediate com mediates are likely just noise.
I don't understand the difference between what is described in the article and how Android has been developed from the start. They have always developed new versions internally and then dumped into AOSP right before release. https://groups.google.com/g/android-building/c/T4XZJCZnqF8/m...
Some projects developed directly in AOSP. Those projects will now develop on the internal branch like the rest. So it's not as big of a change as some are making it out to be.
Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#86Can we please just go back to having some sort of Debian-based GNU/Linux on a smartphone. Just create a really great mobile interface on top of that. The more I learn about Android, the more I think the whole thing is a waste of time.
There's still Sailfish OS... which is not open-source.
Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#87Can we please just go back to having some sort of Debian-based GNU/Linux on a smartphone. Just create a really great mobile interface on top of that. The more I learn about Android, the more I think the whole thing is a waste of time.
Here you go: https://mobian-project.org/
postmarketOS is based on Alpine Linux: https://postmarketos.org/
Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#88Android is going to go closed source. There's no benefit to Google when a Chinese company takes Android, guts the Google parts, and shoves it on a cheap ass phone for a market with a few billion people.
Maybe longer still... I could see Google fully jettisoning the "other" phone makers and going all in on its own hardware to boost profits further. The iPhone is highly profitable, wouldn't you as a Google share holder want them to maximize the value there?
Personally I gave up on Android years ago. It was never great, but the endless poor support of software updates (mostly stemming from Qualcomm blobs as I understand it) was enough to drive me away. Apple really does support iPhone's for a very long time, and their sole goal isn't to sell more eyeballs. Good enough reason for me.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
No OEM is interested in AOSP builds, because no one is going to buy an Android phone without Google Play Services, which is required for many popular apps to work (banking, games). There were some Chinese OEMs that ran an Android build and have unofficial ways to get Play Store working (Boox eReaders for example), but those are increasingly rare now, as years of sanctions has led to Huawei de-Googling itself fast, wi…
So one of the giants will build their version of microg and it will be like with wine, proton and steam os.
Except that attestation (Play Integrity) exists, and its usage by the apps on the Play Store seems to be increasing exponentially (if I'm not mistaken it only takes enabling a switch now to have it in your app).
Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week
#90This really reminds me of Open Solaris. > We will no longer distribute source code for the entirety of the Solaris operating system in real-time In the case of Open Solaris, the code never came out from that point onwards. For Android, the likely end goal is to do the bare minimum of distributing only copyleft code that they don't own copyright to. Until those get replaced with a closed alternative. https://www.youtu…
But copyleft is bad and everyone should use BSD ... Code is turned proprietary by huge corporate with massive development resources. No one could have predicted this.
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