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Luckily I use a much better *top, btop.
This. Not only that, I don't know of a single person (IRL or online) who used atop, like, ever. In fact, this is the first time I'm even hearing of atop. IIRC, most folks went from top -> htop -> glances -> various btop variants (bashtop, bpytop, btop++ etc)
Is there a mechanism where this sort of advice can flow through security teams to everyone (assuming it is about security) without dropping the details. How are zero days dealt with?
For public issues - https://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/oss-sec...
For vague-posting about unconfirmed CVEs and zero days - twitter.com and/or mastodon and/or your friend on signal
There's a lot of speculation about why, with the answer almost certainly security / exploitable (or backdoor), and I'll just throw an extra little tidbit in: atop seems to run persistently as root, which may be the reason for preventing it from running/uninstalling. the netatop part of atop installs a persistent kernel module, netatop.ko, as part of its installation. The module hooks netfilter to be able to monitor a…
There's a lot of speculation about why, with the answer almost certainly security / exploitable (or backdoor), and I'll just throw an extra little tidbit in: atop seems to run persistently as root, which may be the reason for preventing it from running/uninstalling. the netatop part of atop installs a persistent kernel module, netatop.ko, as part of its installation. The module hooks netfilter to be able to monitor a…
I'm not familiar with atop but the website mentions netatop is optional and what I've found suggests you have to manually install it. Do you know if any distributions/packages install this by default alongside the atop install?
Is atop included in any distributions? Is there even a tool to search what is pre-installed in each major distribution(s)?
"Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Fedora, Linux Mint, SUSE Linux Enterprise, CentOS, Manjaro, elementary OS, Gentoo, Oracle Linux, and Pop!_OS" ~--Google's AI. I am not aware of any that install it by default.
0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVMn3xk5mcY
Yes, it comes with that music.
Is atop included in any distributions? Is there even a tool to search what is pre-installed in each major distribution(s)?
I typed 'atop' in my Linux Mint 22.1 laptop/desktop, says it's not found but can be installed. So I think Linux Mint is in the clear, I tried my Ubuntu 24.04 server and same thing there as well as my proxmox home lab instance. I checked that Repology link and I did see Ubuntu, but I guess that is for Ubuntu desktop but not sever edition? ps. If I said anything wrong, please correct me. I'm a linux newb who jumped fro…
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I would disagree and still say that this is bad vagueposting. It doesn't matter how reputable the source is: if you say "don't do X" but don't give a reason why, I'm not inclined to listen. Granted I don't use atop anyways, but I don't think a vague blog post - even one from a respected person - is sufficient justification to change what software one uses.
> It doesn't matter how reputable the source is: It does though. "Don't go down 6th street now" means very different things depending on whether it comes from your buddy, or the bomb squad. > if you say "don't do X" but don't give a reason why, I'm not inclined to listen. I hear ya, but, there are sometimes valid reasons people can't say things; and this may well be one of those times. You have every right to do as y…