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OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work

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Re: OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work

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Post by cudgy »

scoofy wrote: post #78
JohnFen wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do think we should want to win the race Why, though? I can understand the companies involved wanting to be first in order to maximize their profit, but why should that matter to anybody else?

Uhh... because nations should care about their economic output? And want to maximize that output all things being equal?

It’s yet to be proven that AI will increase economic output. Some might argue that reducing the economic benefits for the many in order to maximize the output of the whole may backfire horribly over the long-term.

Re: OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work

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Post by techpression »

EdwardKrayer wrote: post #35

It seems that most people on this site believe that this is a good thing, but all this restriction would mean is that for the next while - the only companies able to afford mass licensing would be in the SPY 500, and that's assuming these companies wouldn't just flock to a nation outside of Americas influence. At some point, it becomes a national security issue. This technology is going to be leveraged in ways we can…

I call XY on this. The problem is inherit in LLMs and the solution is something else altogether, not just allowing companies to ignore the law and lobby for changing said law after the fact.

Re: OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work

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Post by scoofy »

cudgy wrote: post #81
scoofy wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhh... because nations should care about their economic output? And want to maximize that output all things being equal?

It’s yet to be proven that AI will increase economic output. Some might argue that reducing the economic benefits for the many in order to maximize the output of the whole may backfire horribly over the long-term.

I'm talking about the firms that develop AI. The entire point of the conversation is "why should countries care about businesses being in their country as opposed to elsewhere." The point is obvious that where businesses operate is important to the economic output of a nation.

Re: OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work

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Post by cbsmith »

hagbard_c wrote: post #17

Yes, well, in a way they're right and I suspect everyone here knows it no matter how and mighty they might want act when commenting. When foreign (here 'Chinese') competition just ignores copyright laws while 'western' companies have to abide by them for every piece of data they use to train their models the former will have a clear advantage over the latter. This also happens to be how the USA acted in the 1800s [1]…

The US has found ways to get China to adhere to IP laws, but they're never going to agree to restrictions the US doesn't impose on itself. Presuming that there is no way China will respect IP laws is BS.

Re: OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work

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Post by cudgy »

scoofy wrote: post #83
cudgy wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s yet to be proven that AI will increase economic output. Some might argue that reducing the economic benefits for the many in order to maximize the output of the whole may backfire horribly over the long-term.

I'm talking about the firms that develop AI. The entire point of the conversation is "why should countries care about businesses being in their country as opposed to elsewhere." The point is obvious that where businesses operate is important to the economic output of a nation.

Sorry, but your attempt to reframe my response was not successful. If AI is harmful to society, the “winning” of the AI race may not be beneficial to that society.
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