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23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

#81
Good. One awful company that was trying very hard to sell off our genetic data.

Wonder what happens to the treasure trove of data they have collected though. Hopefully the data is just 'sudo rm -rf —-no-preserve-root' and not included as part of bankruptcy proceedings.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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post #76

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It's absurd to me how soft deletion took over the entire industry and 'DELETE FROM' became taboo.

Says someone who has never experienced a data loss bug.

Was the data really important? Is it worth holding people's data hostage because of subpar developers?

I'm not at all saying that soft deletion shouldn't exist. I'm arguing that hard deletion should be the default, and then soft deletion practices should have some justification.

Instead the industry chose to just soft delete everywhere, which is good for the industry, and bad for users.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

#83

I have never participated in any of these DNA sites but I have an aunt that pretty much put in our full family tree. Is there anything I can do to remove myself without making an account?

How do you propose deleting you family tree? That info is obviously not very private.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

#84
post #8

Damn, on Friday, the California DoJ Attorney General issued a warning to consumers about their data: https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-bont... This should've been a giveaway that the company was imminently going to go under.

Given such a late warning, is there any staff left to do the data deletion requests before it heads off into bankruptcy courts

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

#85

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To `DELETE FROM` you have to have at least a relatively vague idea what you are doing. Go and find an organization that has their data and component dependency maps ready and up to date :) One hard delete can expose months worth of bugs.

'Our data design is too bad to allow anyone to delete anything' is not, to me, a valid reason to prevent actual deletion.

Enter Git. (FTR, I don't think it's bad data design. It's a tradeoff. Sometimes it's even a feature.)

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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post #31

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I can go and get DNA tests for somewhere between 200-1000 AUD right now. So it’s not crazy if you have a medical reason to do so. What 23andMe did was try and build a startup around this with the intention of monetising that data in other ways later. That’s why it was so cheap that people gave them away for Xmas. Had this just been a private data base of people and connections, it would have cost many times more to g…

You hand over your DNA when you sit down, when you stand up, when you breathe.

Why was this downvoted? Your close family also shares your DNA, to 100%! Suppose your parents both test..

Your DNA is not something that you can 100% keep from others.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soft_deletion

It's absurd to me how soft deletion took over the entire industry and 'DELETE FROM' became taboo.

Not deleting something you should have: a fine. In some countries.

Deleting something you should not have: potentially a business extinction event. And a fine as well.

Re: 23andMe files for bankruptcy to sell itself

#89
post #35

There are troubling privacy issues, but it was able to tell me: "Toe Length Ratio : Likely second toe longer". I didn't even have to look down! Maybe it was a bad idea. But, I figured if we enter a dystopian future, evil health care companies or governments could easily get my DNA if they want to and/or simply require that information to get care. When you get blood drawn, do you see what they do with it? Hopefully,…

This could actually be a plot point on a dystopian sci-fi movie (identifying people by weird metrics like toe size and such)

That sort of thing is already in widespread usage. For example palm geometry readers as a biometric factor to go along with a key card at a building entrance.

Although in the future I imagine it's more likely to be things like arm to torso ratio or gait recognition or similar, done via machine vision.

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