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Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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I wouldn't color relying on a historical ally that either produces, or is the transit corridor for, most of your food with "everything to lose". The current trade spat is an issue, and Canada should react accordingly, but the reality is that, even with tariffs, the US still represents a very profitable trade partner, especially when they can levy tariffs of their own.

If it was just the trade spat, you might be right. But there's also Trump repeatedly talking about annexing Canada. That goes well beyond a trade spat, and I would absolutely expect Canada to do more in response because that is in the mix. Including actively working to reduce their dependency on US-sourced or US-transiting products.

At the very least you would expect them to start looking at other sources for arms.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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You are calling for the invasion of your own country? Surely you realize that is a very fringe view.

There are lots of Canadians who have felt under attack from within their own country. The ruling regimes of Canada have over time implemented certain policies and ideological values that are a deviation from what was in place before. Not everyone shares those new values, and they feel like the real principles and political culture of Canada has been broken. They’re rather have change, and they see that in America’s rejection of progressive politics. What I’m saying is, to them, it’s not an invasion but a return to normal from a different kind of invasion. I don’t know if it is fringe or not - just explaining the perspective.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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Well if Trump is looking for a reason to invade, he’ll have one he can promote. I don’t agree with it it, but he can say, “they’re cutting us off from our people!” Then he’ll invade BC to form a contiguous border to all our territories. Hell based on the representatives going to DC to discuss making Alberta a state, he’ll probably gin up even more support.

First of all > The bill does not automatically impose fees on vehicles, but it “just gives BC the tools to do so down the road if Trump continues to escalate his threats towards BC and Canada,” according to a statement from the provincial Ministry of Transportation and Transit. Also this > The government of British Columbia filed legislation Thursday that would permit the province to levy tolls on vehicles between th…

That’s not how Trump will spin this. He’s going to pander to some idea of right to move between territorial holdings. He can whip his base up to request an invasion. There are few republicans that are willing to stand up to Trump. That’s why we have the idiocy of impeachment against judges.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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Exactly this. It's interesting watching how Americans are talking about this issue vs Canadians. Even my liberal friends in the US think it's more "Silly" and "Troll" behaviour on Trump's part -- "you're not taking that seriously, are you?" Yes, we're taking it seriously. It wasn't some one-off tweet. He's the official head of state and silence from the rest of the GOP and the US political class generally isn't exact…

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isn't annexing another country based on it being merely an economic client state a...fascist rationale?

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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That makes perfect sense. It puzzles me why supporters of the current US regime think Canada won’t resist the US. Be it a trade war or a military invasion, Canada will make the cost so great that it may eliminate the US from the world arena. Canada has been cornered and has nothing to lose at this point.

This sounds like a straw man. Do you have a link showing where supporters think Canada won't resist the US?

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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I've seen two apocalyptic North American scenarios in fiction, and have previously dismissed both as ridiculous. 1. In the Fallout universe, the USA annexes Canada 2. In at least two Neal Stephenson novels (Snowcrash and Termination Shock), the USA has collapsed. I've never before thought that either of these would have a semi-realistic path to actually happening.

> dismissed both as ridiculous

I think this idealism/naiveness is why you're now sliding further and further away from democracy. Older countries already had their democracies stress-tested, but seemingly this is the biggest test so far for the "checks and balances" in the US, and I feel like many other countries learned to always live with idea that democracy can slip away really quickly unless you always pay attention.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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Totally off topic, but after reading some comments here I got curious and went to Google and typed "population" and autocomplete offered "of Canada" with an answer of 40.1 Million already there. Of course that's what I was going to type, but but but... I'm in the U.S. so there's no reason to know what country I was going to look for unless Google (or this MS browser) knew I was just reading this in another tab. Reall…

people keep looking up the population of Canada to see where it would rank as a state

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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What a lot of commenters cheering this headline might not know is that there is only one single internal road connecting east and west canada which regularly closes. Most commercial routes go through the US. Don't believe me? Route Ottawa to Vancouver in google maps. This move would amount to throwing rocks from a glass house.

That's the fun kind of trivia that only a Canadian would know.

its not true (im Canadian)
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