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Dataminr tracked Gaza-related protests

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Re: Dataminr tracked Gaza-related protests

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Post by bastardoperator »

honeybadger1 wrote: post #69
arrosenberg wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You make a really good point! The average law abiding citizen is much more afraid of petty crime against Elon Musk, a man who does the Nazi salute, than they are about losing their constitutional rights. That is how we wound up with a militarized police force in the first place, with the average person being more afraid of terrorism than encroaching totalitarianism. > i would argue the people in these protests are li…

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Do you hold the same contempt for the people that initially protested against the King of England?.. what a silly argument.

Re: Dataminr tracked Gaza-related protests

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Post by text0404 »

parsd wrote: post #83
jmyeet wrote: post #22

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do you have citations for any of this ("most protestors", "calling for destruction", "extermination", "misinformation", etc)? you may also be surprised to find that much of the world doesn't consider the opinions of the USG to be reliable, including the claim that Israel is not committing genocide - other organizations such as the UN and human rights groups like Amnesty and HRW disagree.

Re: Dataminr tracked Gaza-related protests

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Post by xmprt »

ryandrake wrote: post #2

Headline is kind of clickbaity. They could have just as easily used "LAPD Surveilled Gaza Protests Using A Tool Called Dataminr". Bonus: The tool name is in the URL itself!

I'd change it to "A Social Media Tool called Dataminr". On its own, the name of the tool is meaningless.

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Post by rabidonrails »

potato3732842 wrote: post #76
stvltvs wrote: post #62

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Posting on a publicly accesible website is the legal equivalent of standing on the street corner having a conversation. A police officer doesn't need to search anything because it's out in the open.

A conversation is ephemeral unless someone specifically goes out of their way to record it. That is not true by default for just about anything involving a computer and we all know it. Where's the line between obtuse and lying?

but in this case (to keep with the comparison) the people having the conversation are recording it themselves and posting it publicly.

Re: Dataminr tracked Gaza-related protests

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Post by prophesi »

lenerdenator wrote: post #6

Is this really surprising to anyone? If you're out in public and using public websites to organize protests, it's a given that data will be mined about that. The trick is to make it unattractive for those doing the enforcing to act upon their analysis of that data.

It's not surprising to me because The Intercept regularly reports on the use of Dataminr by various US agencies.

https://kagi.com/search?q=dataminr+site%3Atheintercept.com&r...

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tptacek wrote: post #68
text0404 wrote: post #53

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a police officer observing you briefly with their eyes is quite different than an entire police department outsourcing surveillance of protected activities to a third party which monitors your online activity over time.

How? What expectation of privacy do you have walking down the street, or in your public social media posts?

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