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How I got 100% off my train travel

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Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#81
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean there’s pretty low hanging fruit mentioned in the article. If rail strikes are frequent enough to feature in the formula, end the strikes by paying the workers well.

Paying train workers what they are demanding is expensive

British train drivers are the best paid in Europe by a staggering amount.

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/12/23/train-strikes-the...

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I suppose anything below 30 minutes is consideres "on time". sounds about right for the stereotype. it's the 'murikans that are the ones so uptight about time

Japan would like to have a word.

Have them talk to the Swiss.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41189834

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#84
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not dire and it's not expensive compared to the next reasonable alternatives if you compare the cost of a London commuter belt season ticket compared to the cost of driving+parking, it is still very much a bargain

It's expensive for irregular users. If I want to visit friends in Derby, coming from London, that's £81. For no good reason, a return ticket is £84. If I need to travel at peak times, that's £123. Booked months in advance it might be £20, roughly what a bus ticket costs.

There is a good reason the return is only £3 more. It's so fare dodgers who buy a single have still basically paid the full fare.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#85
post #55

I expense all my work travel, and get to keep delay repay payments for myself. My number one trick to getting the payments: get the tightest connection possible. For the journey I take frequently, the train arrives into the main station at 8:52pm, my connection is at 9pm; picking up just 8 minutes of delays means I'll miss the connection. The next train is at 10pm, which triggers delay repay.

Maybe I've underestimating the amount of money we are talking about but I'd much rather be where I'm headed on time than travel for free, especially on a regular basis.

GP's comment sounds like hell for a few bucks. I'll avoid making any other observations.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#86
post #27

> Avanti West Coast offers customers: > 15 minutes — 25% off > 30 minutes — 50% off > 1 hour + — 100% off To me they look like very generous refund policies. I checked Italy's Trenitalia and what they offer is[1]: > 30-119 minutes: 25% > 120+ minutes: 50% I suppose anything below 30 minutes is consideres "on time". [1] https://www.trenitalia.com/it/informazioni/indennizzo_per_ri...

When high speed trains started operating on Spain in 1992 (AVE [0]) they offered 100% refund in any delay higher than 5 minutes (here a TV ad with very happy passengers because the train is arriving six minutes late [1])

But nowadays and after some mismanagement and also private operators coming to share lines it's:

For all high speed and other long distance trains: 60min delay, 50% refund. 90min delay, 100% refund.

This and other policies [2]

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  0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVE
  1: https://youtu.be/Djv91oHkj4k
  2: https://www.renfe.com/es/es/ayuda/compromiso-puntualidad

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#87
post #8

The UK train system is a dire, expensive mess. Attempting to avoid getting directly political here, but I strongly believe it’s one of the lowest hanging fruit a political party could act on to curry favour with the electorate. Would be amazing to see this productised à la the way split ticketing works.

All the train drivers recently got massive pay increases so we can expect efficiency and cost to improve sometime soon!

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#88
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I suppose anything below 30 minutes is consideres "on time". sounds about right for the stereotype. it's the 'murikans that are the ones so uptight about time

I think by and large this doesn’t play out with trains. American trains tend to be much less frequent, slower, and less comfortable than most European trains. I road a swiss train a couple years ago that was something like 5 minutes late. To me (American) it was “on time” but the conductor came on the PA and apologized. He did make a point to clarify the delay was because they’d been stuck behind an off schedule Germ…

> American trains tend to be much less frequent, slower, and less comfortable than most European trains.

Exception: the New York regional rail system. Its on-time stats are comparable to Switzerland.

We love to talk about subways and intercity high-speed rail. But in America, it doesn't make sense in most cases without subsidies. Drive-on / drive-off regional rail, on the other hand, trades pursim for pragmatism and could really work in our car-dependent metros.

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#89
Ironic read given I'm currently sat on a half hour delayed, hopelessly overcrowded (due to 2 prior cancellations) Avanti west coast service.

I'll be happy to claim my delay repay on my employer's dime for the 5th time this year. My only regret is that I booked off-peak

Re: How I got 100% off my train travel

#90

Where I live, in the US, the income from light rail fair payers is a laughably small portion of the operating budget, so all rides are effectively discounted by 90%+. The fares really only exist to keep homeless people from sheltering on the trains, but they do that anyway, without a ticket. Somehow the prices are still high enough that it's cheaper to buy a cheap used car and drive it instead.

> Somehow the prices are still high enough that it's cheaper to buy a cheap used car and drive it instead. City streets and roads are paid for through property taxes, so they are subsidized 100%.

Roads allow goods and services to be imported and exported from an area. The subsidy brings public benefit.
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