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Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#81

Post by ants_everywhere »

spyspy wrote: post #14
luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

Disclaimer I worked at NYT but this is just unsubstantiated garbage. Say what you will about the company and journalism as a whole but you’d be hard pressed to find a better group of truth-seekers out there. waves hands at every other “news” outlet

The propaganda outlets have really been pushing hard the line that you can't trust professional journalists, and people who get their news from influencers just seem to accept it uncritically.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#82

Post by lxgr »

Despite the symbolism, does this change anything about their reachability from Tor?

Is there any practical advantage to a website in being explicitly reachable as a hidden service on Tor, as opposed to simply not blocking exit node IPs?

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#83

Post by reaperducer »

Lammy wrote: post #15
luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-... “The Agency’s relationship with the Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. From 1950 to 1966, about ten CIA employees were provided Times cover under arrangements approved by the newspaper’s late publisher, Arthur Hays Sulzberger. The cover arrangements were part of a general Times policy—set by Sulzberger—to pro…

From 1950 to 1966

That was 75 years ago. If you're going to grind an axe, at least pick one from this century.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#84

Post by heavyset_go »

lxgr wrote: post #82

Despite the symbolism, does this change anything about their reachability from Tor? Is there any practical advantage to a website in being explicitly reachable as a hidden service on Tor, as opposed to simply not blocking exit node IPs?

Assuming your adversary is a state with access to certificates, a malicious or compromised exit node could lead to your de-anonymization and access to information you may want to keep confidential or hidden.

Your connection to an onion service is end-to-end encrypted and authenticated, as well, which means no MitM can trick you or sniff your traffic.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#85

Post by like_any_other »

spyspy wrote: post #14
luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

Disclaimer I worked at NYT but this is just unsubstantiated garbage. Say what you will about the company and journalism as a whole but you’d be hard pressed to find a better group of truth-seekers out there. waves hands at every other “news” outlet

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Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#87

Post by ranger_danger »

darkhorse222 wrote: post #40
luma wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take them at their actions, not their empty words. Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_New_York_Times_con... > In an interview in 2013, [NYT Executive Editor] Keller said that the newspaper had decided not to report the piece after being pressured by the Bush administration Bush told them not to run the story while he was running for president. As always, the boot was presented and they licked it c…

Your excerpt is a bit misleading, here's a wider cut: When it published the article, the newspaper reported that it had delayed publication because the George W. Bush White House had argued that publication "could jeopardize continuing investigations and alert would-be terrorists that they might be under scrutiny." The timing of the New York Times story prompted debate, and the Los Angeles Times noted that "critics o…

A newspaper that is scared to post a story... what does that tell you about them?

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#88

Post by boredpeter »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #81
spyspy wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer I worked at NYT but this is just unsubstantiated garbage. Say what you will about the company and journalism as a whole but you’d be hard pressed to find a better group of truth-seekers out there. waves hands at every other “news” outlet

The propaganda outlets have really been pushing hard the line that you can't trust professional journalists, and people who get their news from influencers just seem to accept it uncritically.

It’s not propaganda, Noam Chomsky wrote a book about how media is used to advance otherwise unpopular government policies decades ago and the NYT is mentioned in it. If anything this post is propaganda.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#89

Post by sonotathrowaway »

spyspy wrote: post #14
luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

Disclaimer I worked at NYT but this is just unsubstantiated garbage. Say what you will about the company and journalism as a whole but you’d be hard pressed to find a better group of truth-seekers out there. waves hands at every other “news” outlet

Their comment is vastly more substantiated than your feelings are. We all know that NYT suppressed a story about unlawful mass surveillance, then published it to avoid being scooped.

This is besides the mountains of bullshit they pushed to promote the Iraq war - propaganda they have never, and will never fully admit to.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#90

Post by Spooky23 »

reaperducer wrote: post #83
Lammy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-... “The Agency’s relationship with the Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. From 1950 to 1966, about ten CIA employees were provided Times cover under arrangements approved by the newspaper’s late publisher, Arthur Hays Sulzberger. The cover arrangements were part of a general Times policy—set by Sulzberger—to pro…

From 1950 to 1966 That was 75 years ago. If you're going to grind an axe, at least pick one from this century.

We asked 4 Jill Stein voters in this West Virginia diner what they feel about CIA employees at the New York Times. One weird trick was shared.
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