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The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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I'm gonna disagree with the comments here and vouch that Age of Resistance is a fantastic show. It's what got me into the world of Dark Crystal in general. I saw the show first and then the movie, and I feel like the show perfectly setup the events that lead up to the movie. Even if the show unfortunately was cancelled before it could explore Deet's storyline, the creation of the Garthim, and the discovery of the Wall of Destiny. Sure, the rejoining of the UrRu and Skeksis is interesting, but it's certainly not the "whole point" of the movie/show.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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This may also help to explain why politicians who express themselves with a limited vocabulary can be surprisingly successful. And the implication is that other politicians should probably do so as well.

Idiocracy cometh

It hath already arrived.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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post #17

This was a brilliant show, but it had the misfortune to come along at a time when Netflix was cancelling even moderate successes after one season and slashing the budget of hit shows for their second season before cancelling them too (e.g. Altered Carbon). Only very rarely does a show turn into the kind of pop culture sensation that seems to make the bean-counters want to go past two seasons (e.g. Stranger Things), u…

> cancelling even moderate successes after one season and slashing the budget of hit shows for their second season before cancelling them too (e.g. Altered Carbon)

I seriously don't understand who's in charge of this idiocy. its not like they are relying on nielson boxes. they have good data on what is bringing people to the streaming platform. there's no reason for them to be cutting shows prematurely that people love.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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post #50

The author seems to conflate "dark" with "adult", so let me take the chance to point out this common mistake. Horror films, Warhammer 40K and 2000 AD comics are all famously dark, but they're for kids or teens. A Midsummer Night's Dream and The Importance of Being Earnest are light but grown-up. It's a weird deformation of the past generation to think that being depressing makes you deep.

Also, maybe related.

Ultra-Violence is for all ages, great for kids.

One small shot of side boob -- OH NO, that is ADULT, porn.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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post #50

The author seems to conflate "dark" with "adult", so let me take the chance to point out this common mistake. Horror films, Warhammer 40K and 2000 AD comics are all famously dark, but they're for kids or teens. A Midsummer Night's Dream and The Importance of Being Earnest are light but grown-up. It's a weird deformation of the past generation to think that being depressing makes you deep.

Another similar conflation is Serious with Somber. Taking an issue seriously can be amusing as hell, it all depends on what mood allows you to best explore the problem space, if you are serious about knowing or solving an issue you won't necessarily lock into a particular mood in that exploration.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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post #50

The author seems to conflate "dark" with "adult", so let me take the chance to point out this common mistake. Horror films, Warhammer 40K and 2000 AD comics are all famously dark, but they're for kids or teens. A Midsummer Night's Dream and The Importance of Being Earnest are light but grown-up. It's a weird deformation of the past generation to think that being depressing makes you deep.

Gizmodo and all of gawker media= useless waste of electricity

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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post #34

I love the film. The film is a real masterpiece. I'm struggling to get through the series. That ultra clunky opening narration is not a great sign and the world building and underlying plot feels shallow in the series. I'd LOVE for more Dark Crystal content but I would like them to start over...

just so you know there are some graphic novels that accompany the new series.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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post #43

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I didn't find it bad, but it was different, I think the show was trying to find a new direction to make the series last, which obviously didn't work.

Personally, I found the second season to be a decent show in its own right, but comparison is 100% the thief of joy in this case. Season one was one of the most gorgeous pieces of sci-fi media I've ever seen and season two just looked OK by comparison and had a much slower pace and felt more emotionally vulnerable compared to season one's hardboiled tone. If they were separate shows I would be tempted not to compare…

The main actor was Space Philip Marlowe in two different shows and I just wanted more of that.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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The Netflix show is a prequel, setting up the story of how the gelfling were wiped out

Right, but it still takes place after the Mystics and Skeksis split off from each other. The Gelflings were really just irrelevant bystanders to the real story even if we the audience see the story from their perspective in both the movie and show.

Isn’t that the point, in some regards? The urSkeks were alien invaders who committed genocide and caused widespread environmental destruction - it’s their ambition that drives the plot forward, it’s their powet and their willingness to wield it - without that, nothing would have happened on this wholesome sleepy little planet, you know?

How do you, as a Gelfling, navigate your life, in the shadow of these incredible creatures? That’s what the story tells - you worship them as gods, you treat them cautiously as potential allies or enemies, you rise in rebellion to eject them from your world - and maybe in the end you find a new peace and balance.

I do think that mystic and skeksis perspectives are present, in little peeks and glimpses, but I would still welcome another excursion into Thra to find out more about what their lives are like.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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They look like the same steps to me, with steps 1 and 2 both being Setup. The dramatic arc is fairly universal, and Miyazaki is hardly an exotic unfamiliar with western culture.

GP's lists fall somewhat short of explaining the two most important differences: 1. Kishoutenketsu prefers to introduce the primary conflict as late as possible, whereas any writer in Hollywood will try to introduce it as early as possible. 2. Kishoutenketsu prefers to frame the primary conflict as a difference in perspective that must be bridged from both sides, rather than outright competition between irreconcilabl…

> whereas any writer in Hollywood will try to introduce it as early as possible

I like the Lynch version of this in Lost Highway:

1. Conflict: someone sent us a video of the outside of our house.

2. Rising Conflict: oh no, now they sent us a video of the inside of our house!

3. Conglitch: now they sent us a video of me murdering my wife?!? Didn't I just see her go in the bedroom?

4. Sogflatch: wait wut now I'm getting sentenced for murdering my wife?!?

5. Segfault: Hey Warden, the guy who murdered his wife disappeared and now there's a different guy in his cell!!!

6. Reboot: New guy adjusting to life after materializing in and getting released from the murderer's cell...

There's a similar game with conflict in Blue Velvet where "teen coming-of-age plot arc" becomes entangled with a separate "drug-addled adult plot arc." The latter ends up dominating to the point where the "teen drama" bullies get scared and drive off from what would have been the climax of their plot arc (never to be seen again!).

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