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Re: Probabilistic Artificial Intelligence

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That is a textbook false equivalence.

It’s exactly the same argument.

Please explain how they are equivalent and why the psychoactive properties of a psychedelic don't make it categorically different in this situation than a carrot.

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“When I began to navigate psychospace with LSD, I realized that before we were conscious, seemingly self-propelled human beings, many tapes and corridors had been created in our minds and reflexes which were not of our own making. These patterns and tapes laid down in our consciousness are walled off from each other. I see it as a vast labyrinth with high walls sealing off the many directives created by our personal…

I feel like if all the things people believe and espouse about hallucinogens were true and not just the effect of permanently damaging your mind, with the illusion of wisdom, we’d be able to point at all the revolutionary scientific breakthroughs and discoveries made under the influence of hallucinogenic substances. However, everyone I’ve met who admits to having taken hallucinogens seems reduced in some way, rather…

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Re: Probabilistic Artificial Intelligence

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Books suck (imho). We need a new format to teach and learn this deep technical stuff. Not youtube, something interactive with exercises and engagement.

I urge you to rethink this perspective. All research shows that paper increases comprehension significantly over screens and even over eink. Additionally hand note taking again has a positive impact.

It's never worked for me. I own tons of books that i want to read but never will.

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If a thumbprint can do damage, why can't a lower dose? What's the mechanism?

Water will kill you if you consume too much of it - almost universally, the poison is in the dose not the substance.

The mechanism for water toxicity is physically displacing ions in the brain, causing osmotic damage. (This also explains why lower amounts of water are safe.) A thumbprint dose of LSD is nowhere near high enough to do something like that.

Re: Probabilistic Artificial Intelligence

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stupid question: can a LLM (i.e neural network) tell me the probability of the answer it just spew? i.e. turn into fuzzy logic? Aaand, can it tell me how much it does believe itself? i.e. what's the probability that above probability is correct? i.e. confidence i.e. intuitionisticaly fuzzy logic? Long time ago at uni we studied these things for a while.. and even made a Prolog interpreter having both F+IF (probabilit…

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by this, but there is token probability available in some providers: https://cookbook.openai.com/examples/using_logprobs

I think logprobs functionality was removed because it allowed to exfiltrate the last layer of weights of their propietary models

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stupid question: can a LLM (i.e neural network) tell me the probability of the answer it just spew? i.e. turn into fuzzy logic? Aaand, can it tell me how much it does believe itself? i.e. what's the probability that above probability is correct? i.e. confidence i.e. intuitionisticaly fuzzy logic? Long time ago at uni we studied these things for a while.. and even made a Prolog interpreter having both F+IF (probabilit…

According to the following paper, it's possible to get calibrated confidence scores by directly asking the LLM to verbalize a confidence level, but it strongly depends on how you prompt it to do so:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.14737

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It’s exactly the same argument.

Please explain how they are equivalent and why the psychoactive properties of a psychedelic don't make it categorically different in this situation than a carrot.

The argument was: lots of people do X, so X has obviously inspired discoveries.

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stupid question: can a LLM (i.e neural network) tell me the probability of the answer it just spew? i.e. turn into fuzzy logic? Aaand, can it tell me how much it does believe itself? i.e. what's the probability that above probability is correct? i.e. confidence i.e. intuitionisticaly fuzzy logic? Long time ago at uni we studied these things for a while.. and even made a Prolog interpreter having both F+IF (probabilit…

You can say "give me a % chance you think this thing will happen and why" and it will spit out a lot of context behind it's thinking, I'm not a math guy and I'm aware "probability" has some more complex math stuff in it, but just from a "why do you believe this so strongly?" perspective, I've personally found it's able to have me agree or disagree fairly. You can then give it additional context you know about, and it will refine it's estimation. Basically I've started treating them like context connection systems, just to look to see if dots even possibly could connect before I do the connecting myself.

Re: Probabilistic Artificial Intelligence

#89
Existential Reality is potential distribution not arrangement of states.

Potential exists, probability is a mathematical description of its distribution. Every attribute is a dimension (vector). State is merely a passing measurement of resolve. Potential interacts through constructive and destructive interference. Constructive and destructive interference resolve to state in a momentary measure of “now” (an inevitability decaying proposition.)

Existential Reality is potential distributing, not arrangements of state.

Re: Probabilistic Artificial Intelligence

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Please explain how they are equivalent and why the psychoactive properties of a psychedelic don't make it categorically different in this situation than a carrot.

The argument was: lots of people do X, so X has obviously inspired discoveries.

Carrots inspire science, too.

https://phys.org/news/2015-12-tablet-screen-brought-aid-carr...

> It was the Austrian botanist Friedrich Reinitzer and the German physicist Otto Lehmann who discovered liquid crystals in 1888 when they were experimenting with the natural substances found in carrots

Carrots have also inspired art, I don't need to find an example of that.

That said, if you view that premise as it being a given that X has inspired something just because lots of people do it, then it is indeed preposterous.

However, if you view it as "a critical mass of people have done mind-altering substances and thus it's almost a certainty that discoveries have been made under and due to their influence", then it makes a lot more sense. It's a fundamentally different argument and you can't generalize it to any non-mind-altering substance. The point is that the mind is altered by the substance, causing different modes of thought. I think you were just confused about the way the other commenter laid out their premise, because it's a purely statistical argument with the qualifier that we're talking about substances that measurably alter thought processes.

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