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Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?

The US is extremely chaotic and unpredictable. China is fairly stable and predictable.

Predictable to an extent. President Xi has effected a number of rather drastic changes internally; it's possible that external policy changes may follow.

It's not as crazy as electing Trump, of course.

Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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Is there “good” dictatorships? My personal opinion is there is no good dictator (ok, in HN context, BDFL in a SW project) I like no totalitarian regime. No one.

A benevolent dictator is the best form of government. Unfortunately though power corrupts and they have a habit of becoming self serving, and very much not benevolent. I'm not just talking at the nation-state level, but at community, company, sports and so on. There's no shortage of Open Source projects run using the Benevolent Dictator approach. Compare that to companies run by committee (or governments run by dead-…

> So yes, there are good dictatorships. They're especially good at getting stuff done. There are also obviously bad dictatorships.

All dictatorships, by definition, are better at getting things done than organizations that require non-unilateral assent.

Instead, the difference between a good dictatorship and a bad dictatorship is that in a good dictatorship, dissidents are eliminated quietly or, if not quietly, then with enough spin that everyone considers their elimination to be a good thing.

In other words, what good dictatorships are good at is PR.

Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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China recently moved that direction. That would be nice collaboration to see between EU and China. China to publish policy to boost RISC-V chip use nationwide, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-publish-policy-boos...

If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?

At this point, I'd rather my country collaborates with China than the US. And I dislike China's government as much as the next person.

Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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China recently moved that direction. That would be nice collaboration to see between EU and China. China to publish policy to boost RISC-V chip use nationwide, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-publish-policy-boos...

If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?

Simple: China is only totalitarian in western propaganda. "Yellow Peril" is a tired trope, it's a democracy. It's difficult to characterize the U.S. as a democracy, and our social progress is rolling backwards.

Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?

The US is extremely chaotic and unpredictable. China is fairly stable and predictable.

Most authoritarian states are 'stable and predictable'. When you meet a lion on the savannah the beast is stable and predictable in that it will most likely try to eat you unless it isn't hungry. Step on a snake and the outcome is stable and predictable in that you will get bitten.

It is good for Europe to learn to stand on its - our - own legs, to become less dependent on the USA for territorial defence and probably also to learn the hard way that peace and tranquillity is the exception rather than the rule. Si vis pacem, para bellum. It is not good for Europe to swap dependence on the USA with dependence on China, we're more than 500 million people with access to most of the resources we need to stand on our own legs so let's get crackin'.

Also, let's drop the silly panic around Trump, the man is doing what he was elected to do which is put America first. We should do the same, in a serious way. Not in an isolationist way but sensibly. Stop importing the world's problems, stop with the silly self-chastisement around 'climate' and 'colonialism', stop the import of islamism and make serious work of getting rid of the islamist factions which have been allowed to establish themselves or Europe as it once was - the birthplace of the enlightenment - will succumb to the sectarian infighting which destroyed Lebanon after they invited Arafat and his PLO.

So, 'Europe first' in the sense that the ideas which formed the continent are worth defending and so are people who subscribe to those ideas no matter where they come from. Those who want to get rid of these ideas to replace them with their own intolerant society - whether that be an islamic caliphate or a Chinese-style fascist [1] surveillance state - are not welcome. I realise this includes a number of EU bureaucrats who are enamoured of the latter system and I would be pleased to see these individuals removed from power, preferably by truly democratic means.

[1] Fascism and Communism are closely related so it is not that odd to call the current government form in China by the former name even if they claim to be the latter. See https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism for a definition or read what Mussolini had to say about the subject and you'll see the parallels.

Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?

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By negotiated peace you mean taking the agressor's side?

Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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Because in spite of the west's propaganda, Xi is a good dictator. Singapore was/is also a totalitarian state yet many do business with it.

Is there “good” dictatorships? My personal opinion is there is no good dictator (ok, in HN context, BDFL in a SW project) I like no totalitarian regime. No one.

How is a dictatorship different from a monarchy? There have been plenty of good monarchies throughout history. Frederick The Great, created the Prussian State. Stuart’s were well loved that they ended parliamentary democracy to restore the Stuarts. Victorian, Elizabethan era were also prosperous and well known. Ceasar was the final monarch who united the enmity between the nobles and plebs.

The problem is we look at those states and all we see is the existence of slavery (that existed in all societies till at least 1800AD), women being relegated to a different social role etc. But it is wrong to assume that any of those were due to monarchy and that a monarchy in the modern age would not rule based on modern values. Just look at Singapore, for a small example of a monarchy ruling based on current social mores. Unfortunately since WW1, monarchies throughout the world have vanished, and all we have are liberal democracies, so we can’t say either way.

Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing

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Such things have existed for several years already! Here are some examples: https://sifive.com/boards/hifive-premier-p550 https://sifive.com/boards/hifive1-rev-b https://www.beagleboard.org/boards/beaglev-fire https://starfivetech.com/en/site/boards https://milkv.io/docs/duo/getting-started/duo256m There is even a Raspberry Pi model which includes two RISC-V cores alongside its ARM cores: https://www.raspberrypi.com/…

Milk-V has much more than the duo. I have a few of their products and they're very cool! The biggest problem with them is software. Many boards only have buildroot SDKs or niche and outdated. Fedora related images. Though if you're experienced you can port your own linux distributions to these boards.

But Duo is a device in the form factor of Arduino Nano that can run actual Linux (the 256MB RAM version at least). It's quite a leap.
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