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I'll settle with a much lower bar: an engineer that can tell the code the model generates is shit.
Most engineers can do that because it's way easier to find flaws in code you didn't write vs in ones that you write. My code is always perfect in my own eyes until someone else sees it.
DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
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Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
#82I'm sure this question has been asked before, but why not launch a GPU with more but slower ram? That would fit bigger models while still affordable...
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
#83I'm sure this question has been asked before, but why not launch a GPU with more but slower ram? That would fit bigger models while still affordable...
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
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There's not much else (other than Epyc) in the way of affordably priced motherboards that have enough cumulative RAM. You can buy a used Dell dual socket older xeon CPU server with 512GB of RAM for test/development purposes for not very much money. Under $1500 (before adding video cards or your own SSD), easily, with what I just found in a few minutes of searching. I'm also seeing things with 1024GB of RAM for under…
PowerEdge R series is significantly cheaper if you already have an ear protection
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
#85As other commenters have mentioned, the performance of this set up is probably not really great since there's not enough VRAM and lots of bits have to be moved between CPU and GPU RAM. That said, there are sub-256GB quants of DeepSeek-R1 out there (not the distilled versions). See https://unsloth.ai/blog/deepseekr1-dynamic I can't quantify the difference between these and the full FP8 versions of DSR1, but I've been…
> I can't quantify the difference between these and the full FP8 versions of DSR1, but I've been playing with these ~Q2 quants and they're surprisingly capable in their own right.
I run the Q2_K_XL and it's perfectly good for me. Where it lacks vs FP8 is in creative writing. If you prompt it with for a story a few times, then compare with FP8, you'll see what I mean.
For coding, the 1.58bit clearly makes more errors than the Q2XXS and Q2_K_XL
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
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Pcie lanes
I was about to correct you because this doesn't use PCIe for anything, and then I realized Arc was a GPU (and they support up to 8 per machine). Any idea how many Arc's it takes to match an H100?
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
#87I'm sure this question has been asked before, but why not launch a GPU with more but slower ram? That would fit bigger models while still affordable...
Because then you would have less motivation to buy the more expensive GPUs.
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
#88I'm sure this question has been asked before, but why not launch a GPU with more but slower ram? That would fit bigger models while still affordable...
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
#89https://github.com/intel/ipex-llm/blob/main/docs/mddocs/Quic... Requirements (>8 token/s): 380GB CPU Memory 1-8 ARC A770 500GB Disk
To get more than 8 t/s, is one Intel Arc A770 enough?
Re: DeepSeek-R1-671B-Q4_K_M with 1 or 2 Arc A770 on Xeon
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The Q8 model is totally different?
My experience with quantizations is that anything below 6 is noticeably worse. Coherence suffers. I’ve rarely gotten anything really useful out of a Q4 model, code wise. For transformations they are great though, eg convert JSON to Markdown and vice versa.
The sweet spot for me