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U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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Post by nyargh »

arunabha wrote: post #19

It would be one thing if there was a clear policy and adherence to it. In that case, you could discuss and reason in good faith. However there is no such indication that this decision is based on a considered policy. Trump's supporters would say that this is a result of not wanting the US being involved in foreign conflicts. That is a laudable goal, however that is not what is happening here. From the article > On Fr…

Bold of you to assume that the goal of the current administration is to maintain USD hegemony. They've stated explicitly several times that they feel the dollar is too expensive and gone on at length about the trade "deficit". Even going so far with Trump and Musk hinting that they will renig on US foreign debt obligations ("lots of fraud in treasuries"), which would destroy the value of the USD overnight if they followed through.

It seems clear to me one goal of the current admin is to transform the US into an export economy, and the strong currency is one major roadblock in reaching their objective.

Would love to see more analysis on this, as their trial balloons around tanking USD seem to have gotten lost in the noise.

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Post by BAHKA »

ellis0n wrote: post #69

Hello from Ukraine and I need help. The war in Ukraine has made it impossible to run my startup. Due to unlimited attacks it has become impossible to focus on anything other than the war. Of course, the war certainly needs to be stopped, but no one really knows how to do it correctly and I'm not sure anything good will come of it. After 3 years of the war, my memory has started to deteriorate and I’ve encountered iss…

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Post by salynchnew »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #67
jltsiren wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's one thing to stop all aid to Ukraine. That makes you an asshole in a world full of assholes. But it's another thing to do that while simultaneously working to restore relations with Russia. There is only one word for that: evil. Back in the late 90s to late 2000s, people in Western Europe generally had pretty negative views of the US. It was the country that refused to fight against climate change, launched an i…

Why do people think it is so far fetched that Trump is a Russian asset given his behavior in his last term (trying to blackmail Zelenskyy on an official call) and his credit problems in the past (no banks would lend to him given his failure to pay back any loan, with the exception of an obscure channel through a German bank)? Perhaps Trump is just in debt to Putin and this is payback, he was intentionally crass to Ze…

I don't go in for most conspiracy theories, but there is this: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-ba...

(second half of the article)

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Post by csomar »

ellis0n wrote: post #69

Hello from Ukraine and I need help. The war in Ukraine has made it impossible to run my startup. Due to unlimited attacks it has become impossible to focus on anything other than the war. Of course, the war certainly needs to be stopped, but no one really knows how to do it correctly and I'm not sure anything good will come of it. After 3 years of the war, my memory has started to deteriorate and I’ve encountered iss…

You are focusing on the wrong things. You need to leave immediately (and take your family if you can). If you can't leave the country try going nearby the Polish border.

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Post by exmicrosoldier »

7bit wrote: post #80
creato wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really tiring seeing the HN enlightened conservatives talking as if there is a coherent policy here. Withdrawing military support for Ukraine alone might be reasonable, I disagree with it but I can see the sense in it. But Trump is absolutely wrecking every relationship we have in the world, trading or otherwise, except with Russia, where he wants to remove sanctions and increase trade. Even if you disregard all…

There is a plan. Don't try to make him look like an idiot who has no clue. This is dangerous. It's calculated and everybody around him has to start understat his motivations to defend themselves.

The plan is everybody but Trump loses.

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Post by ellis0n »

csomar wrote: post #84
ellis0n wrote: post #69

Hello from Ukraine and I need help. The war in Ukraine has made it impossible to run my startup. Due to unlimited attacks it has become impossible to focus on anything other than the war. Of course, the war certainly needs to be stopped, but no one really knows how to do it correctly and I'm not sure anything good will come of it. After 3 years of the war, my memory has started to deteriorate and I’ve encountered iss…

You are focusing on the wrong things. You need to leave immediately (and take your family if you can). If you can't leave the country try going nearby the Polish border.

I agree, it's better to be closer to the Polish border. That's why I wrote that I need funds to be able to take any action. The last time such a move cost me over $10k and I also volunteered to help my family and others.

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Post by csomar »

arunabha wrote: post #19

It would be one thing if there was a clear policy and adherence to it. In that case, you could discuss and reason in good faith. However there is no such indication that this decision is based on a considered policy. Trump's supporters would say that this is a result of not wanting the US being involved in foreign conflicts. That is a laudable goal, however that is not what is happening here. From the article > On Fr…

It is not a petty tantrum though it might look like one. You have to consider that the incumbents have won the US elections, that's not a small feat. What many people are missing is that if the US main challenger is China and beating Russia is a far thing, then it makes sense for the US to ally with Russia against China. For that, the US might need to give Russia something (some EU countries?) for this hustle and also refund it for the earlier war (yep). But if the administration believes this is worth it to contain China then it's the right call.

This is why European countries are freaking out. They might be seeing the change as being more fundamental than a two guys liking/hating each other and that a trade might involve their territory in an unfortunate moment (though a part of this is their own negligence).

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