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Grok3 Launch [video]

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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by nomilk »

htfy96 wrote: post #53
ilaksh wrote: post #19

If what they say is true, then you have to give them credit for catching up incredibly fast. And slightly pulling ahead. Not only with the models, but also products.

I have a close friend working in core research teams there. Based on our chats, the secret seems to be (1) massive compute power (2) ridiculous pay to attract top talents from established teams (3) extremelly hard work without big corp bureaucracy.

It was mentioned during the launch that current datacenter requires up to 0.25 gigawatts of power. The datacenter they're currently building will require 1.25 (5x) (for reference, a nuclear powerplant might output about 1 gigawatt). Will be interesting to see if the relationship between power/compute/parameters and performance is exponential, logarithmic or something more linear.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by guappa »

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #52

Companies have hijacked the open source concept to mean downloadable blob and we follow them as I see in the comments. It’s a real shame.

I'm guilty of this. I didn't publicly shame a coworker who installed fb's model and said "it's open source" just for the sake of peace.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

Rover222 wrote: post #26
rvz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea why was this downvoted, but you are correct. Seems like the team at xAI caught up very quickly to OpenAI to be at the top of the leaderboard in one of the benchmarks and also caught up with features with Grok 3. Giving credit where credit is due, even though this is a race to zero.

Yeah, so many people aren't capable of talking about anything Musk-adjacent with clear thoughts. It's insane how quickly xAI went from not existing, to the top of the benchmarks.

I think people here are thinking very clearly about Musk and his various projects.

Not sure about people elsewhere though.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by ncr100 »

a-dub wrote: post #80
JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #52

Companies have hijacked the open source concept to mean downloadable blob and we follow them as I see in the comments. It’s a real shame.

this is correct. "open source" means everything required to recreate from scratch and improve. not "here's a massive binary, an interpreter script and permission."

Feeling my inner Klingon, "Where is the honor in releasing a binary blob and calling it .. open source. Pfah!"

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by ks2048 »

Rover222 wrote: post #26
rvz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea why was this downvoted, but you are correct. Seems like the team at xAI caught up very quickly to OpenAI to be at the top of the leaderboard in one of the benchmarks and also caught up with features with Grok 3. Giving credit where credit is due, even though this is a race to zero.

Yeah, so many people aren't capable of talking about anything Musk-adjacent with clear thoughts. It's insane how quickly xAI went from not existing, to the top of the benchmarks.

Can't you just take DeepSeek and put it behind an API and get to the top of the benchmarks immediately?

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by nicce »

raverbashing wrote: post #70
JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #52

Companies have hijacked the open source concept to mean downloadable blob and we follow them as I see in the comments. It’s a real shame.

Better a downloadable blob than a non-downloadable one

This is the problem - we accept this approach and then they don't have to do any effort to correctly publish them in open means.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by vasco »

andsoitis wrote: post #40
rvz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd expect them to open source it just like they did with Grok. We're still waiting for OpenAI to do the same. Even at least GPT-3.

> We're still waiting for OpenAI to do the same. Even at least GPT-3. The exact details of OpenAI's models and training data are not fully disclosed, which can raise concerns about potential biases or vulnerabilities.

You just have to use openai for 5 minutes and you'll see the pretty evident biases.
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