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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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I had similar experiences with a modern Volvo. (XC40 T8 EV). Modern cars seem to be absolutely terrible. It's like all those Single Page Applications on the web that are just downgrades over the classic Server-Side Rendered apps. Sure, you have more features, but at what cost? Reliability. I think the last generations of cars before the touch buttons and screens were the last "okay" generation. Somewhere in 2010s, al…

There was a good (?) video on the subject the other day, it was mainly about Volkswagen / VAG but highlighted the software problem.

Cars are / were basically Frankenstein monsters under the hood, with dozens of onboard computers / chips all needing to work independently yet collaboratively and talk to each other. VW set up a new subsidiary and hired 3000 people to build the car software system of the future, reducing the 70-odd computers to 3 or so.

But we all know software, it uh, didn't go as planned.

Anyway, iirc Toyota or Mazda, one of them, was at the forefront of bringing regular buttons back to cars. And I hope there's going to be new car companies that iterate on the thing again and build simpler cars again. It should be a lot cheaper too, because it feels like they bolt on more and more electronic features to try and upsell the car. Building a car with the features and numbers of 30, 40 years ago should be doable at a fraction of the cost. And that development is coming actually, but it's coming from the likes of China and India. It's not profitable to bring them to the west though.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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> It is the electric car with the lowest consumption (12.5 kW / 100 km) Anyone have any idea what this means? What's power divided by distance?

I assumed they missed an 'h' there. People seem to get easily confused by the W/Wh and A/Ah thing. A rental car I've took recently showed power usage in 'kWh per hour'. Bleh.

kWh/h is a proper unit for average energy consumption over time, if a bit weird.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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How can we help people not get into those situations? At this point it's trivial to find information like: if you buy Tesla you've got a decent chance of issues; if you use PayPal as a seller there's a decent chance they'll take your money; if you use godaddy there's a chance they'll steal/ransom your domain on expiry; etc. It's all out there, yet people still give them money. How can this be stopped in the first place?

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

#84

I had similar experiences with a modern Volvo. (XC40 T8 EV). Modern cars seem to be absolutely terrible. It's like all those Single Page Applications on the web that are just downgrades over the classic Server-Side Rendered apps. Sure, you have more features, but at what cost? Reliability. I think the last generations of cars before the touch buttons and screens were the last "okay" generation. Somewhere in 2010s, al…

The cold weather alert especially gets on my nerves. I appreciate the heads up, but I don't appreciate the HUD crying wolf about stuff that doesn't require my immediate attention.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

With the horror stories I've heard, my max range from a national dealership would be around 80 km.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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The 8% battery loss per day comes from sentry mode. It's draining your battery like crazy.

The article mentions also that the computers are short-circuiting. I guess that you can lose a lot of energy when there is a short circuit. Maybe with an infrared camera, one can get an idea where all the energy is wasted. Apparently the author did check that sentry was not enabled.

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We need the EV revolution to save the climate but we were also promised that EVs would have less defects and be more maintainable than traditional ICE cars. But it turns out Teslas and Chinese EVs are among the worst performing in the mandatory periodic inspections in many European countries. This is not because of some anti-US/China bias in European car inspections because Ford (US) and Volvo (China) are doing well.…

That metric is very screwed by service intervals.

With nearly every other new car brand you have to go do a service once every year or so to keep the warranty.

With tesla & some Chinese brands that's not a thing

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

#89

I had similar experiences with a modern Volvo. (XC40 T8 EV). Modern cars seem to be absolutely terrible. It's like all those Single Page Applications on the web that are just downgrades over the classic Server-Side Rendered apps. Sure, you have more features, but at what cost? Reliability. I think the last generations of cars before the touch buttons and screens were the last "okay" generation. Somewhere in 2010s, al…

I think google's prev ceo once said something like, "Computers should have been invented before cars". They took it wrong, computerizing cars before reaching level 5 automony was a mistake.

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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How can we help people not get into those situations? At this point it's trivial to find information like: if you buy Tesla you've got a decent chance of issues; if you use PayPal as a seller there's a decent chance they'll take your money; if you use godaddy there's a chance they'll steal/ransom your domain on expiry; etc. It's all out there, yet people still give them money. How can this be stopped in the first pla…

State regulation with heavy fines.
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