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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by mcphage » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:12 AM UTC

HideousKojima wrote: post #61

mcphage wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US What if the economic hurt this causes to China drastically increases the flow of fentanyl in the US?

Then block all trade outright with China if they show themselves willing to be so openly belligerent.

> if they show themselves willing to be so openly belligerent

Why would they need to be open about it? But also: the time to do that was 30 years ago.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by mcphage » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:14 AM UTC

fineman1618 wrote: post #74

mcphage wrote: post #50

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> News flash: we can't afford to buy American. Oh come on now, how much more does an iPhone made in the US cost? Oh. Hmm.

Probably 3x - 10x cost If You have the infrastructure to manufacture it. And they years it take to build infrastructure in china its months, in us? Years. Just look into how long it takes to put a bus station or a factory

And we’ve got none of that. Right now, a US made iPhone doesn’t exist, and is years away from existing. It can’t be bought with any amount of dollars.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by grepfru_it » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:17 AM UTC

karlshea wrote: post #15

Scoundreller wrote: post #6

How’s it work in the US these days with AliExpress (and I guess Temu) last-mile delivery? In Toronto, most of those items are coming to me by private courier (and this pre-dates the Canada Post strike).

That’s an interesting point, I just got some keycaps on Taobao and they were shipped all the way to Chicago with CAINIAO and then handed off directly to UPS.

Ordered a bunch of server ram and parts. Most are sold by a Chinese company but the point of origin is either Ontario or California

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by maxerickson » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:17 AM UTC

HideousKojima wrote: post #61

mcphage wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US What if the economic hurt this causes to China drastically increases the flow of fentanyl in the US?

Then block all trade outright with China if they show themselves willing to be so openly belligerent.

Pointing the gun, telling the others to drink the kool-aid.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by sidewndr46 » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:21 AM UTC

bb88 wrote: post #40

So if you're worried about packages coming from AliExpress, you probably shouldn't be. The last several packages I ordered were shipped USPS with an origin of the US. Los Angeles was the origin of the last one I received with AliExpress Choice(tm). It may affect ebay purchases of electronic parts from Shenzhen though. Particulary if the vendors use the Chinese post office. I also ordered a Keychron keyboard last week…

That brings up a good point. Does this only pertain to USPS? So you can still get a package from China via DHL? If so, private couriers are about to go way up in their business

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by bb88 » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:22 AM UTC

reaperman wrote: post #75

bb88 wrote: post #40

So if you're worried about packages coming from AliExpress, you probably shouldn't be. The last several packages I ordered were shipped USPS with an origin of the US. Los Angeles was the origin of the last one I received with AliExpress Choice(tm). It may affect ebay purchases of electronic parts from Shenzhen though. Particulary if the vendors use the Chinese post office. I also ordered a Keychron keyboard last week…

I'm worried more about the prototypes my R&D department is designing in partnership with Chinese contractors and fabrication facilities. We manufacture the final products here in the USA, but a LOT of components we air-mail from China. A huge percentage of the nation's R&D efforts (for DOMESTIC MANUFACTURING) is going to be completely and utterly fucked if they can't rush-deliver niche items from China. This is a dis…

I would say so, but there are options right? FedEx? DHL?

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by Sperfunctor » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:23 AM UTC

mysecretaccount wrote: post #78

Sperfunctor wrote: post #53

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The upper class vacuuming up all profit, greatly exacerbating inequality, is a far bigger deal than the inflationary impact of immigration. Your analysis is poor.

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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by sidewndr46 » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:23 AM UTC

grepfru_it wrote: post #83

karlshea wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s an interesting point, I just got some keycaps on Taobao and they were shipped all the way to Chicago with CAINIAO and then handed off directly to UPS.

Ordered a bunch of server ram and parts. Most are sold by a Chinese company but the point of origin is either Ontario or California

are you sure it isn't Ontario, California?

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by bb88 » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:23 AM UTC

sidewndr46 wrote: post #85

bb88 wrote: post #40

So if you're worried about packages coming from AliExpress, you probably shouldn't be. The last several packages I ordered were shipped USPS with an origin of the US. Los Angeles was the origin of the last one I received with AliExpress Choice(tm). It may affect ebay purchases of electronic parts from Shenzhen though. Particulary if the vendors use the Chinese post office. I also ordered a Keychron keyboard last week…

That brings up a good point. Does this only pertain to USPS? So you can still get a package from China via DHL? If so, private couriers are about to go way up in their business

Well if my DHL shipment from shenzhen gets blocked, I'll let you know.

I'm guessing Aliexpress choice fills up entire shipping containers shipping them to contractors on the ports. Once inside the US it's simply a matter of relabeling packages with a USPS sticker.

If Wal-Mart, e.g., can no longer import containers from China, well, Wal-mart would be fucked long faster than Aliexpress.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by stikit » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 3:23 AM UTC

conception wrote: post #73

queuebert wrote: post #51

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The new problem is the factories making a lot of this stuff are heavily polluting, and we have little to no control over that because they are abroad. Part of a good climate strategy must involve regulating them somehow.

At least for China they have an environmental plan far and away better than the US’s “what do the rich want to do?”.

Can you give details of China’s environment plan?. All I hear about are the dozens of coal plants China builds each year. Are they no longer building those plants?