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Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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During his first term, Trump was the one who stopped all the records from being released automatically. This is his MO, to claim as victory something that would have happened without him opening his mouth in the first place.

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> in between democrats were in power they didn't release

That's not true. Biden did release more files during his term:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/16/us/politics/biden-jfk-ass...

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Most of the documents were declassified already, I think 99% of 170,000 files or some large number. This was through the The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. I don't know what's to gain in this release other than closure?

Why do you think a certain amount has remained classified?

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

#83
post #63

Most of the documents were declassified already, I think 99% of 170,000 files or some large number. This was through the The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. I don't know what's to gain in this release other than closure?

Someone previously decided that the remaining 1%, 1700 files, shouldn't be viewed by the public. Why? 1700 files is plenty to hold some interesting truths.

Some people have seen those and are allowed to talk about them:

https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/spycast/646/transcript

https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/spycast/647/notes

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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And once it is released you'll know and the mystery will be gone. I (Australian) was very enthused when the "Somerton man" was resolved. But it took away mystery and wonder from me which actually gave me joy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerton_Man

Most likely outcome is docs are released and there is still mystery.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Most of the documents were declassified already, I think 99% of 170,000 files or some large number. This was through the The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. I don't know what's to gain in this release other than closure?

The remaining 1% is almost certainly where the good stuff is.

Or just people's names. Something like "Joe Blow said he saw a person with a brown bag." You'd redact Joe's name even if there's nothing particularly interesting about him.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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As much as some would like to pretend it does, his issues in his personal life still don’t make segregation and lack of voting rights an okay thing.

Yes, but he was really bad in some respects, that clashes with his public image/caricature in a way that kind of matters

The most liberal comment in this site's history

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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post #63

Most of the documents were declassified already, I think 99% of 170,000 files or some large number. This was through the The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. I don't know what's to gain in this release other than closure?

Someone previously decided that the remaining 1%, 1700 files, shouldn't be viewed by the public. Why? 1700 files is plenty to hold some interesting truths.

I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy.

You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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He probably already knows, because, well, ya know

Trump, a sexual offender known to grab pussies of random women, had a relationship with Epstein. Yeah, unless his dementia worsens even more he's not going to release those files.

Unless the release won't actually hurt him. There's a big group of persons that will aspire to be powerful enough to do those sorts of things... It would help strengthen his image

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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at this point "free speech absolutist" is nothing but a revealed preference for censorship

Sums up the social media era so far. Everyone is a free speech absolutist right up until they get the power to censor.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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post #79

Most of the documents were declassified already, I think 99% of 170,000 files or some large number. This was through the The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. I don't know what's to gain in this release other than closure?

Are you assuming that the decisions of which pages were declassified was a random sample? Why would they have selected any pages to remain hidden?

Because they have assets who are still in the field that they don't want to expose or similar. Classified status is somewhat contagious, in that many of those documents aren't from the time period in question, they could be from yesterday if some government agent had a discussion about it.
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