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Re: .mail app

#81

Post by samstave »

gokhan wrote: post #73
samstave wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just off the top of my head you know what I would like to see as an email interface: Reddit. Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. Different users can reply in a threaded way to all the recipients of the message etc. Obviously it would need in-line attachements and in-line pictures. It would be interesting to allow a vote system on messages. Rather than file them, you…

> Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. As in Gmail?

Do you use reddit?

As cookingrobot says, gmails threading is one dimensional and super clunky when you have lots of replies. It auto collapses to far so you can't easily reply to a particular message in the thread.

Reddit has the best comment threading system of any site online. Quora is near the worst. HN is just slightly frustrating.

Re: .mail app

#82

Post by Kerrick »

cookingrobot wrote: post #78
gokhan wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. As in Gmail?

But when you open a message with lots of replies, there's no structure, and you can't reply to one person's comment (like I'm replying to your comment here). This would be messy in gmail.

As in Google Groups?

Re: .mail app

#83

Post by pyre »

irahul wrote: post #19
astral303 wrote: post #12

Best of luck w/ the implementation. However, reading the concept, I am unimpressed. In Mail.app, I can already mark e-mails with different-colored flags, which allows me to come up with my own "get back soon" or "get back later" type of a system. The assertion that e-mail hasn't changed since 1970's is false. Modern e-mail clients manage it much better. Compare Mail.app, Outlook and GMail to PINE--the difference is s…

> concepts such as embracing the fact that it is not truly productive to file every single e-mail into a purposeful folder, embracing that tagging is better than folders. I don't know if it was there from the beginning, but I have always used rules which say "apply filter and skip inbox" effectively giving me separate folders. To each his own; I don't like kitchen-sink inbox, and like separate folders to just tagging…

The issue with Gmail is that you can't affect the order in which the filters are applied.

For example: A error email gets sent to a development mailing list. Normally I tag all of the mailing list emails, and skip the inbox.

- What if I want the error email to stay in my inbox, but only if it's an error email?

- What if I want that email to get tagged as "ERRORS" and "DEV_LIST" and skip the Inbox?

I have to do weird filters like:

  filter #1 - if list:DEV_LIST and not subject:ERROR
              then tag w/ DEV_LIST and skip Inbox
  filter #2 - if list:DEV_LIST and subject:ERROR
              then tag w/ DEV_LIST and tag w/ ERROR
or:

  filter #1 - if list:DEV_LIST and not subject:ERROR
              then tag w/ DEV_LIST and skip Inbox
  filter #2 - if list:DEV_LIST and subject:ERROR
              then tag w/ DEV_LIST and tag w/ ERROR and skip Inbox
As you can imagine that these can get quite unwieldy.

Re: .mail app

#85

Post by Kiro »

samstave wrote: post #81
gokhan wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. As in Gmail?

Do you use reddit? As cookingrobot says, gmails threading is one dimensional and super clunky when you have lots of replies. It auto collapses to far so you can't easily reply to a particular message in the thread. Reddit has the best comment threading system of any site online. Quora is near the worst. HN is just slightly frustrating.

I thought reddit and HN were using the same system. What's the difference?

Re: .mail app

#86

Post by samstave »

Kerrick wrote: post #82
cookingrobot wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But when you open a message with lots of replies, there's no structure, and you can't reply to one person's comment (like I'm replying to your comment here). This would be messy in gmail.

As in Google Groups?

You think that google groups is an analogous email client?

Re: .mail app

#88

Post by nrj »

jvm wrote: post #25

Whoo boy does that site ever not work without javascript... Sort of ridiculous since it's a static page advertising a desktop app, neither of which should require javascript at all. EDIT: Oh God, and hot pink highlighting does NOT complement their color scheme. And for all its javascript fanciness, it doesn't handle resizing at all. Sorry to be so negative, this site just pushes all my buttons.

What sort of sites are you visiting that do work without javascript?

Re: .mail app

#89

Post by adhipg »

Isn't there too much emphasis on 'click' on the page? The interface gives a feeling that it not benefit power users.

I usually never leave my keyboard when reading/writing emails. Keyboard shortcuts on GMail (and Sparrow) have been the most important feature for me to get my mail done faster.

Re: .mail app

#90

Post by Samuel_Michon »

Kiro wrote: post #85
samstave wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use reddit? As cookingrobot says, gmails threading is one dimensional and super clunky when you have lots of replies. It auto collapses to far so you can't easily reply to a particular message in the thread. Reddit has the best comment threading system of any site online. Quora is near the worst. HN is just slightly frustrating.

I thought reddit and HN were using the same system. What's the difference?

Hacker News is written in Arc, a dialect of Lisp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_(programming_language)

Reddit used be written in Lisp, but they switched to Python early on: http://blog.reddit.com/2005/12/on-lisp.html

I do agree that they look alike, Hacker News was inspired by Reddit.

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