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Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by baobun »

jicea wrote: post #17
lukevp wrote: post #15

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Hmm, I didn’t hear about this! What about that lifetime Bruno thing that was $9? I’m pretty sure I bought that. Is that just nothing now or what does that get me?

Bruno's pricing has changed recently, the lifetime offer is not available anymore. Prices tiers are: free, $6/month, $11/month [1]. Bruno's developers explained it was necessary to sustain Bruno's growth. [1]: https://www.usebruno.com/pricing

> growth

It's an http client... Itonically I think curl has grown to become so pervasive that it's common parlance to "curl something" to a large extent because haxx thankfully has a radically different approach.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by gschier »

written-beyond wrote: post #52
mootoday wrote: post #30

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Sounds like you're looking for https://yaak.app/ .

that's close but it uses Tauri, which maybe lighter than electron but we're still running an instance of a web browser/web view

Yes, Tauri isn't that much different than Electron. I also bundles Node JS to power Yaak's plugin system, which makes it even more similar.

I think Electron gets a bad rep mostly because big companies use it to build low quality apps.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by klabb3 »

written-beyond wrote: post #52
mootoday wrote: post #30

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Sounds like you're looking for https://yaak.app/ .

that's close but it uses Tauri, which maybe lighter than electron but we're still running an instance of a web browser/web view

Why is webview a problem? I hear this a lot but not sure why (with the exception of gtk WebKit on Linux which has legit perf issues). We’re on web right now and I’ve never heard anyone complain hackernews is sluggish and that they want a native app instead (or rather 5 native apps minimum for the big OSs).

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by klabb3 »

gschier wrote: post #82
written-beyond wrote: post #52

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that's close but it uses Tauri, which maybe lighter than electron but we're still running an instance of a web browser/web view

Yes, Tauri isn't that much different than Electron. I also bundles Node JS to power Yaak's plugin system, which makes it even more similar. I think Electron gets a bad rep mostly because big companies use it to build low quality apps.

Tauri doesn’t bundle Chromium and Node. My app bundle is 10MB and it even bundles a sidecar binary in Go. A hello world electron bundle is 100+ MB.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by dorian-graph »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #55
agluszak wrote: post #48

Wait, wasn't insomnia supposed to be an open source alternative to postman?

Yeah, but they went the cloud-first enshittification route like a year and a half ago. https://github.com/Kong/insomnia/issues/6577 I still use Insomnium, a (dead) fork of Insomnia that removed all the telemetry on a version of Insomnia just before this nonsense occurred.

Then Bruno positioned itself as the fix for the enshittification, and then did it itself.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by gschier »

klabb3 wrote: post #84
gschier wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Tauri isn't that much different than Electron. I also bundles Node JS to power Yaak's plugin system, which makes it even more similar. I think Electron gets a bad rep mostly because big companies use it to build low quality apps.

Tauri doesn’t bundle Chromium and Node. My app bundle is 10MB and it even bundles a sidecar binary in Go. A hello world electron bundle is 100+ MB.

Ya the bundle size is different for sure. The memory usage isn't far off though, since it's still a web app.

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by _benj »

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #76
jurschreuder wrote: post #26

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Bruno is nice because unlike postman all the calls are defined in files that you can add to the git of your project. Only thing I don't like about Bruno is that you cannot generate a documentation from your api call tests.

Bruno was supposed to free us from the other bad guy, then they added a subscription too. Fuck Bruno I guess.

I find this funny from people that make their living from $$ from software! Lol

But apart from that Bruno is open source (MIT), you can fork it and have it anyway you want…

The paid option seems just like the traditional open source model of make software free but offer enterprise support. And given that CTOs tent to want to pay for stuff (postman is terrible nowadays but is still picked and paid for) why would Bruno straight up say no to money?

Re: Hoppscotch: Open source alternative to Postman / Insomnia

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Post by impulsivepuppet »

klabb3 wrote: post #83
written-beyond wrote: post #52

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that's close but it uses Tauri, which maybe lighter than electron but we're still running an instance of a web browser/web view

Why is webview a problem? I hear this a lot but not sure why (with the exception of gtk WebKit on Linux which has legit perf issues). We’re on web right now and I’ve never heard anyone complain hackernews is sluggish and that they want a native app instead (or rather 5 native apps minimum for the big OSs).

This is mostly the case because most solutions provide more than the bare minimum of DOM rendering and event binding that a web view originally entails. Once you "accidentally" ship an entire browser inside your app, you've opened up more vectors for vulnerabilities—such is the price of humanity's hubris in attempting omnipotence.

Then second aspect is the "well-hidden" JS runtime or the general dislike of Javascript, but this point has been explained by other commenters well enough.

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