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Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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This is similar to something I've been thinking about, which is if people will develop ways of writing that signal somehow that they definitely are not AI. Like including certain "banned" phrases or whatever. Or logic contradictions that violate the laws of robotics or something.

Or maybe we'll finally get serious about web of trust crypto if we want to continue talking to humans.

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

#83

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The quoted words search barely works these days anyway.

This bugs me so much. It happens constantly. A few days back I searched for a person's name, put it in quotes and I got results with celebrity with somewhat similar name. Zero hits on the person I searched for on the front page. I had to add specifics to the query such as job title to find them.

An easy way to see how a "search engine" has become "vague recommendation engine" is to take a distinctive phrase from one of its results, put it in quotes, and see if it manages to find that page again. Often, it doesn't.

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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I work with ML and I am bullish with AI in general; said that, I would pay between 5 to 10 USD a feature or toggle called “No AI” for several services. For myself I noticed 2 bad effects in my daily usage: - Search: impossible to reach any original content in the first positions. Almost everything sounds like AIsh. The punctuation, the commas, the semicolon, the narro vocabulary, and the derivative nature of the rece…

Spotify used to have a "dislike" button for their Discover Weekly which helped with pruning music you don't like, but with the natural law of tech enshitification they removed that feature a month ago.

I used to always hesitate to use that "dislike" button because I was worried that Spotify would not be able to distinguished between "I will always dislike this song" and "I don't want this song in this specific context"

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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Strongly agree. Whenever I search something and am met with a sea of TOP 10 X; THE 20 BEST Y; 20 REASONS Z; etc. I go Kagi and am immediately refreshed.

And yet Kagi isn't anywhere near as good as Google was ~13 years ago. Yes - a big part of that is that online content is so much worse than it used to be. But it became bad over time because of what Google incentivized.

Google ~13 years ago dealt with a much less complicated search landscape where

1. Its own products weren't (as much) part of the search result quality problem. Today Google has hungry product managers from Ads, Youtube, and various AI products convincing higher-ups that their product deserves higher placement. That placement used to be sacrosanct.

2. The daily volume of AI-generated garbage content 13 years ago was probably a rounding error in today's volume

So Google was operating in a different landscape than Kagi of today. They had to do a lot less to achieve the quality they had.

I disagree that that Kagi "isn't anywhere near as good as Google was ~13 years ago". It's near. For me personally, it's better because I'm never served first-party ads.

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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For search, use Kagi. You don’t have to use their AI products at all to just use search.

If Kagi made a cheaper "no AI" tier I would be happy to subscribe. AI is costly to run, so even if you don't use the AI it's priced into your subscription fee - you're paying for an expensive product you don't want or use. e: according to Kagi's pricing page they do have a 'no AI' tier, but it limits your number of searches to 300/month. Seems like a totally arbitrary limitation, but its still better than forced AI.

Yeah I'm on the 300 per month tier. I tend to hit that limit after about 3 weeks, which is certainly annoying.

Re: Add "fucking" to your Google searches to neutralize AI summaries

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I work with ML and I am bullish with AI in general; said that, I would pay between 5 to 10 USD a feature or toggle called “No AI” for several services. For myself I noticed 2 bad effects in my daily usage: - Search: impossible to reach any original content in the first positions. Almost everything sounds like AIsh. The punctuation, the commas, the semicolon, the narro vocabulary, and the derivative nature of the rece…

I respect your opinion but at the same time: > I work with ML and I am bullish with AI in general; said that, I would pay between 5 to 10 USD a feature or toggle called “No AI” for several services. Hard fuck this. I am not giving a company money to un-ruin their service. Just go to a competitor. I get with a bunch of these hyperscaled businesses it's borderline impossible to entirely escape them, but do what you can…

Eh, my partner loves Copilot in Office. There are tasks where it's taking hours or days off the time. Especially web searching and extracting information.
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