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Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included

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Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included

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93po wrote: post #79
bko wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's sad that's all. I don't think weed and caffeine are equivalent. One is a downer and the other a stimulant. You might get jitters with too much caffeine but that's not the same as being baked productivity wise. Sure you don't have to be productive 24/7 but chances are if you're lit at 7am, you're not being productive even when you sober up, and you'll just keep smoking. In regards to "functional potheads"…

I've met some functional potheads and I legitimately cannot tell when they're high, even after they smoke a lot. Their tolerance is so unbelievably high that smoking does very little to them. They manage to function in life because they're typically not-really-that-high along with having careers that are just not cognitively difficult, at all. One does sort of data entry stuff, stuff they've done for years without mu…

Why do they smoke if it doesn't affect them? Is it just at this point they feel terrible if they don't? Is it worth just going through detox so you're not dependent for the rest of your life?

Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included

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Post by 93po »

bko wrote: post #81
93po wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've met some functional potheads and I legitimately cannot tell when they're high, even after they smoke a lot. Their tolerance is so unbelievably high that smoking does very little to them. They manage to function in life because they're typically not-really-that-high along with having careers that are just not cognitively difficult, at all. One does sort of data entry stuff, stuff they've done for years without mu…

Why do they smoke if it doesn't affect them? Is it just at this point they feel terrible if they don't? Is it worth just going through detox so you're not dependent for the rest of your life?

It does something, just not a lot. I think many/most weed smokers can quit cold turkey without many or any physical problems. Even very high tolerance smokers can still get pretty high, they just have to use tons of weed/high density forms of ingestion

Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included

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Post by asacrowflies »

bko wrote: post #75
portaouflop wrote: post #18

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I think the same when I see people chugging a fat black coffee the moment they wake up. I wouldn’t be able to focus at all, constant jitters - how can these people all work effectively while being strung out on caffeine? The answer is it’s all about tolerance and what drugs are social acceptable. The guy who smokes all day just gets back to baseline with his first joint in the day, he’s not actually high as you would…

I think it's sad that's all. I don't think weed and caffeine are equivalent. One is a downer and the other a stimulant. You might get jitters with too much caffeine but that's not the same as being baked productivity wise. Sure you don't have to be productive 24/7 but chances are if you're lit at 7am, you're not being productive even when you sober up, and you'll just keep smoking. In regards to "functional potheads"…

Source on weed being a "downer"? I think this is just your personal bias on weed and how it makes YOU feel. Weed doesn't slow heart rate or respiration like proper downers. The effects are almost always in the eye of the beholder. Being un productive or "baked" is not a given.

Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included

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Post by user9999999999 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #53
user9999999999 wrote: post #22

cool now do something about car exhaust.

Doesn't Japan already have one of the most non-car extensive transit systems on the planet? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Keihanshin > Public transport within Keihanshin is dominated by an extensive public system, beginning with an urban rail network second only to that of Greater Tokyo, consisting of over seventy railway lines of surface trains and subways run by numerous operators; buses, monorails, an…

That is a very good point. Admittedly, my comment was a little knee-jerk. I just wish the world could vilify car exhaust with the same gusto that cigarette smoke gets. But it is instead very normalized

Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included

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Post by pixxel »

jjice wrote: post #29
portaouflop wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the same when I see people chugging a fat black coffee the moment they wake up. I wouldn’t be able to focus at all, constant jitters - how can these people all work effectively while being strung out on caffeine? The answer is it’s all about tolerance and what drugs are social acceptable. The guy who smokes all day just gets back to baseline with his first joint in the day, he’s not actually high as you would…

Smoking on the streets affects everyone else walking on the street. Drinking a cup of coffee on the street affects no one else. It seems like you may have been making a more general social commentary, but I think this is pretty separate, since this is specifically about . If you're smoking in your home - more power to you.

I’ll take the whiff of locally grown weed over beans picked by poor people, processed and delivered by criminal oil companies.
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