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Seems pretty obvious why in a world where if you misspeak or say something ill considered it can be all over twitter and have serious personal and professional ramifications. Regardless of how well meaning people are in their desire to hold people to account for bad views, it does have a chilling effect, and you can't learn if you don't have a safe place to make mistakes.
If you really believe something, say it loudly and proudly and sign your name to it. If you're not willing to have it attributed to you because it will make you look bad, then maybe you should take a moment to think about where those beliefs come from.
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> If after attending a dinner party people are repeating everything they heard, in public, with attribution - then that dinner party absolutely was not intimate It's still helpful if you're bringing together groups of people who don't know (and thus may surprise) each other to lay the ground rules. I'd be quite upset if I held a birthday party, which may go to 30 or 40 people, and learned that something (possibly qui…
Right, but if these groups of people don't know one another - that's basically the definition of not intimate.
Different definitions of intimate [1]. Webster's gives an intimate club as an example. I'd also suggest an intimate dinner over which e.g. in-laws meet.
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> this is a safe space for me to say unpopular things and not get labeled as a conservative The first one is confusing. The US is a very conservative country. It just elected a very conservative president. Statistically like 40% of voters call themselves conservative.
If you look at voting maps for the 2024 USA Presidential Election, you can see that there is a blue band of Democratic voters right down the coast, including the Bay Area. The Bay Area in particular appears to have a very different culture to most of the USA, although I have never been there so cannot confirm that statement personally. I don't think that many Democratic party members consider themselves conservative,…
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> this is a safe space for me to say unpopular things and not get labeled as a conservative The first one is confusing. The US is a very conservative country. It just elected a very conservative president. Statistically like 40% of voters call themselves conservative.
If you look at voting maps for the 2024 USA Presidential Election, you can see that there is a blue band of Democratic voters right down the coast, including the Bay Area. The Bay Area in particular appears to have a very different culture to most of the USA, although I have never been there so cannot confirm that statement personally. I don't think that many Democratic party members consider themselves conservative,…
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How about South Africa not doing so well currently? It could be viewed through a racial lens but it means you can’t objectively discuss and hopefully help the situation. IMO this is exactly an example of where such closed rules may legitimately help. In the process of brainstorming you are bound to say something stupid or illegal but that’s the whole idea of brainstorming- to throw ideas and see what sticks
Illegal? I don't think that's true, not since ~1989 in South Africa anyway.
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Can you give some examples? I'm out of the loop. Personally, I am trying to think of something I could say five years ago that I can't say now.
> Can you give some examples? I was at a party recently where someone argued hard-shell tacos are racist. More seriously, one could probably express a broader range of views--correct or not--on Israel and Palestine five years ago than one might be comfortable expressing (or even asking about) now.
As a taco enjoyer I don't think this is a serious argument and it's weird that you're taking it seriously
> on Israel and Palestine five years ago than one might be comfortable expressing
As someone that has been yelled at by all sides of this debate I really don't think that's true, I was getting yelled at 5 years ago too
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Can you give some examples? I'm out of the loop. Personally, I am trying to think of something I could say five years ago that I can't say now.
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> there’s a liberating and freeing quality to the idea that this is a safe space for me to say unpopular things and not get labeled as a conservative or racist,” Lederer said. Tantalizing, now I really wonder what he said.