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mikestew wrote: post #21
cjbgkagh wrote: post #13

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Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility. I am so hypermobile that none of the traditional ergonomics techniques, including physical therapy, work well enough and I have resorted to using a reclining chair. The reclining chair has worked out great and I really wish I had tried it much sooner. I had not considered it earlier because all of the advice I had received was that i…

Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility Boy, that one comes with a whole lot of [citation needed] .

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theultdev wrote: post #72
philk10 wrote: post #65

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One example of many - https://www.henryford.com/blog/2023/11/how-bmi-is-flawed-and...

It's in the title, but that article lists no reasons why it's racist. They try to relate it to socioeconomic status, but BMI is applied to poor white people as well. I don't buy that reasoning on face value though, it's perfectly affordable to eat healthy. These days fast food and processed foods are much more expensive than buying fresh groceries. Just a trash article trying to normalize obesity and race-bait.

The scientific literature on this is vast.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10693914/

Re: The Aging Programmer [video]

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mikestew wrote: post #21
cjbgkagh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility. I am so hypermobile that none of the traditional ergonomics techniques, including physical therapy, work well enough and I have resorted to using a reclining chair. The reclining chair has worked out great and I really wish I had tried it much sooner. I had not considered it earlier because all of the advice I had received was that i…

Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility Boy, that one comes with a whole lot of [citation needed] .

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Re: The Aging Programmer [video]

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Post by cess11 »

theultdev wrote: post #76
philk10 wrote: post #73

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yeh, the poor neighborhoods are full of grocery stores with fresh food and not food deserts AMA any better as a source? https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/how-use-bmi-fet...

yes even the poor have grocery stores. and no, that's a terrible article as well. feel free to pick out the strongest point you think the article has and present it. dumping links is not a conversation.

In which parts do you disagree with the history it narrates?

Re: The Aging Programmer [video]

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Post by j45 »

danbmil wrote: post #38

My peak programming skills are close to what they were 30 years ago, but I cannot sustain that level of concentration for long periods as I once could. I feel like a pinch hitter: I can do a couple innings at a high level of performance, but I can't keep that level up as long as I used to. OTOH I think I have better judgement when it comes to deep, complex questions of long-term architecture choices. My "meta-program…

Clever architecture always beats clever code.

Companies that don’t get it confuse furious activity for fixing more and more effective ways

Natural focus can change to learning new things.

Focusing on learning and implementing brain health above all is the key I’ve found.

Starting to introduce individual magnesium threonate and zinc made a surprising difference.

Normal things like understanding how sleep, hydration, exercise, diet. The science around gut health has also been interesting for its contribution to focus and energy.

Be happy to learn from you on anything you find works.

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

PaulHoule wrote: post #48
y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #35

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PSA: Be careful about doing McKenzie technique exercises! It made it worse for me because the physical therapist didn't do a good enough analysis! I encourage a thorough assessment that includes an MRI review of your spine first. The link posted above mentions it as well > Although most patients favor spinal extension, there are, however, patients who favor spinal flexion instead. For these types of patients, the rep…

Unfortunately the results you get from doing that are pretty variable. Not like you shouldn't go see a doc and get imaging and do all that (you should!) but every time I've gotten imaging done I've heard "you've got degeneration which is typical for somebody your age" -- my son just got an MRI for a work injury (paid for by Workman's Comp) and got told the same thing. Often your doc gives you an order to a PT and wha…

Your chances of getting better are still greater than if you just willynilly self-treat without the support of those diagnostic tools. Yes for the majority of people, simple spine degeneration may not be a big deal and probably easily treatable at home with stretching and strength training exercises. There's degeneration, and then there's borderline myelopathy; you sure is hell don't want to make that worse (trust me) before you get a chance to see a medical professional. Myelopathy is insidious too, it can turn into a catastrophe without you realizing. One day it might be pain, the next it could be near paralysis.

I agree, the quality of care received is very lacking (especially in the US, I don't think anyone would argue otherwise), but if you find a physical therapist that is actually willing to look at your MRIs to determine what the mechanics of your particular situation are and work with you on what feels good vs what makes things worse, you'll be far better off. They do exist, it might take time to find them. If you go into a PT clinic and they don't even look at your imaging, I'd go somewhere else.

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Post by 9rx »

mikestew wrote: post #21
cjbgkagh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility. I am so hypermobile that none of the traditional ergonomics techniques, including physical therapy, work well enough and I have resorted to using a reclining chair. The reclining chair has worked out great and I really wish I had tried it much sooner. I had not considered it earlier because all of the advice I had received was that i…

Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility Boy, that one comes with a whole lot of [citation needed] .

Why is citation needed?

Elaboration may be warranted, but if you do not have the trust in the parent to provide that elaboration under his own creation, why engage with him at all? To only be willing to speak to him if he relays quotes from someone else is quite unusual, if not anti-social.

If you would rather speak to that someone else who you deem a suitable authority, why not speak to that other person instead? What do you hope to gain from using the parent as a pointless middleman? Especially when you consider that middleman untrustworthy, thus making any citations that may be provided unreliable anyway. A strange endeavour.

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Post by distortionfield »

coliveira wrote: post #67
amatecha wrote: post #63

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I'm 40 and as far as I can tell, I can concentrate just as well now as I did when I was 20. I'm also pretty deliberate with what I do in life, I don't engage in "mass social media" like FB/Twitter/etc. , I don't use YouTube, Tiktok, etc.. .. I mean, I will view something if someone sends a link, but I don't "browse" stuff (partly because browsing literally anything feels like I'm being manipulated and I'm pretty sens…

This site is a social network. Not as bad as Facebook or Twitter/X, but pretty much the same idea.

I’ve seen this argument made so much lately I’m starting to feel like it’s being astroturfed.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

hintymad wrote: post #74
basfo wrote: post #56

I don't see a problem with my programming skills, but with my ability to play the corporate game. Probably because i have a lot of experience, i kind of know when a manager wants to push a team too much because he wants to play some game of thrones with another manager. I know when they decide to ignore all warnings to get to a deadline, and then when everything explodes they blame someone else. I know when someone h…

> Today you have this "go fast, break things" mentality Not in most of the big tech companies, even in the bay area. It's amazing that the bay area companies have managed to grow themselves into giant bureaucratic organizations and they console themselves with bullshit like slow is fast.

That's because "go fast and break things" was a stupid plan for children and criminals. It worked sometimes in the same way that some people who move to LA to become A-list actors succeed, but that doesn't make it a good plan. Slow IS faster. But slow can also be slow; you can go slow because you're doing it right, or you can go slow because you're dragging cinderblocks behind you for no reason. The trick is telling those two things apart.

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Post by Mindstormy »

mikestew wrote: post #21
cjbgkagh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility. I am so hypermobile that none of the traditional ergonomics techniques, including physical therapy, work well enough and I have resorted to using a reclining chair. The reclining chair has worked out great and I really wish I had tried it much sooner. I had not considered it earlier because all of the advice I had received was that i…

Programmers are much more likely than the general population to have hyper-mobility Boy, that one comes with a whole lot of [citation needed] .

I know it really doesn't count for much but I suffer from hyper-mobility and have ADHD as well. So hey we have an n of one so far.
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